tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-82671151303921586982024-02-07T12:37:03.696-05:00Tithing Is Not For New Testament Christians!Mammon loving Pastors and Ministers are imposing the law of tithing on New Testament Christians! But the Holy Spirit says "Let my people go!"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8267115130392158698.post-10789509363043038652016-11-27T00:29:00.002-05:002016-11-27T00:29:36.754-05:00The “Whole Nation” In Malachi 3:9<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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says that the "whole nation" in Malachi 3:9 actually refers to the Priests representing the whole nation of Israel.</div>
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Russ Kelly's interpretation is acceptable:</div>
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Here is one example where one individual is referred as the whole nation of Israel...</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Joshua 7:20</span></div>
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So Achan answered Joshua and said, "Truly, I have sinned against the LORD, the God of Israel, and this is what I did:</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Joshua 7:21</span></div>
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when I saw among the spoil a beautiful mantle from Shinar and two hundred shekels of silver and a bar of gold fifty shekels in weight, then I coveted them and took them; and behold, they are concealed in the earth inside my tent with the silver underneath it."</div>
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However YHWH did not say Achan, son of Carmi from the tribe of Judah sinned against Him but He said Israel has sinned and He also used "they" - which appears to refer the entire nation of Israel.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Joshua 7:11</span></div>
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Israel has sinned; they have transgressed my covenant that I commanded them; they have taken some of the devoted things;they have stolen and lied and put them among their own belongings.</div>
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Did the entire nation of Israel sin against YHWH or only one individual?</div>
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In Joshua 7:11 YHWH was referring to one individual called Achan as the whole nation of Israel.</div>
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Likewise the “the whole NATION of you” in Malachi 3:9 could very well point to the Aaronic priests only or even to one individual - the current Chief Priest serving during Malachi's time (probably that Eliashib, the high priest who colloborated with Sanbalath and Tobiah!)</div>
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Here is one more example:</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Numbers 25:1-14</span></div>
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From verse 1 through 13, it is only mentioned as Israel as if it were the whole congregation of Israel. However if we look at Number 25:14 - it is clear that only the tribe of Simeon was involved in committing the sin and once that Simeonite prince Zimri was killed, the LORD's anger against the WHOLE NATION OF ISRAEL ceased.</div>
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The Tribe of Simeon</div>
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First Census: 59,300</div>
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Second Census: 22,200</div>
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Total loss for the Simeonites: -37,100</div>
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It appears that the tribe of Simeon took the brunt of God's wrath during the Baal worship at Peor which was attributed to the whole nation of Israel in the beginning verses of Numbers 25.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Numbers 25:1-14</span></div>
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Baal Worship at Peor</div>
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1While Israel lived in Shittim, the people began to whore with the daughters of Moab. 2These invited the people to the sacrifices of their gods, and the people ate and bowed down to their gods. 3So Israel yoked himself to Baal of Peor. And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel. 4And the LORD said to Moses, “Take all the chiefs of the people and hanga them in the sun before the LORD, that the fierce anger of the LORD may turn away from Israel.” 5And Moses said to the judges of Israel, “Each of you kill those of his men who have yoked themselves to Baal of Peor.”</div>
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6And behold, one of the people of Israel came and brought a Midianite woman to his family, in the sight of Moses and in the sight of the whole congregation of the people of Israel, while they were weeping in the entrance of the tent of meeting. 7When Phinehas the son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he rose and left the congregation and took a spear in his hand 8and went after the man of Israel into the chamber and pierced both of them, the man of Israel and the woman through her belly. Thus the plague on the people of Israel was stopped. 9Nevertheless, those who died by the plague were twenty-four thousand.</div>
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The Zeal of Phinehas</div>
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10And the LORD said to Moses, 11“Phinehas the son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest, has turned back my wrath from the people of Israel, in that he was jealous with my jealousy among them, so that I did not consume the people of Israel in my jealousy. 12Therefore say, ‘Behold, I give to him my covenant of peace, 13and it shall be to him and to his descendants after him the covenant of a perpetual priesthood, because he was jealous for his God and made atonement for the people of Israel.’”</div>
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14The name of the slain man of Israel, who was killed with the Midianite woman, was Zimri the son of Salu, chief of a father’s house belonging to the Simeonites. 15And the name of the Midianite woman who was killed was Cozbi the daughter of Zur, who was the tribal head of a father’s house in Midian.</div>
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However in KJV & Dead Sea Scrolls Malachi 3:9 reads as</div>
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“I read the scripture different and stick to KJV.</div>
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Malachi 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.</div>
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I read that verse as follows: You have robbed me, you have even robbed this whole nation. </div>
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The whole nation was robbed because the whole nation suffered from the curse. The whole nation was robbed of the blessing.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">They tithed as a nation. They were blessed as a nation. They were cursed as a nation</span>. “</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">What is your motive and why do you research about tithing?</span>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Tithe Teachers and their followers often get mad at us, go off on us and their accusations can be paraphrased as:</span>
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<li class="_2cuy _509q _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; list-style-type: disc; margin: 0px auto 12px; text-align: left; white-space: pre-wrap; width: auto; word-wrap: break-word;">Don't waste your time and our time like this, be productive in the body of Christ and don't cause division and sow discord among brethren!
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<li class="_2cuy _509q _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; list-style-type: disc; margin: 0px auto 12px; text-align: left; white-space: pre-wrap; width: auto; word-wrap: break-word;">You and your ilk are obsessed by tithing, you guys don't do anything else other than bringing up tithing over and over again!
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<li class="_2cuy _509q _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; list-style-type: disc; margin: 0px auto 12px; text-align: left; white-space: pre-wrap; width: auto; word-wrap: break-word;">You tithe opponents yourselves do not have all answers about tithing and disagree among yourselves, then why do you teach others about tithing in the first place?
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<span class="_4yxo _4yxr" style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">Answers:</span></h3>
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<span class="_4yxo _4yxr" style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">Evangelism & Tithing:</span>
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To respond to the accusation that we don't spend time on evangelizing:
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What makes someone think that we focus ONLY on tithing and do not evangelize, it is a logical fallacy to make such assumption?
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Jesus not only asked us to evangelize but also to make disciples.
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The Greek work for disciple is <span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">mathétés</span> simply means a student or a learner. We hear a lot of overtones about discipleship today and most of the discipleship trainers and teachers do not want anyone to learn the truth about tithing, oxymorons!
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Ironically, all 5 founders of that <span class="_4yxo _4yxp" style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">diabolical</span> shepherding and discipleship movement were strong proponents of monetary tithing and did not make their disciples to learn the truth about the tithes.
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While studying about tithing, we are learning and doing a disciple's job. After evangelizing a person and that person gets born again, we need to make him/her a learner of the scriptures. Tithing is one of the many areas in various topics of the Bible, where a Christian must educate himself/herself.
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<pre class="_19ik" dir="ltr" style="background-color: #f6f7f9; color: #1d2129; font-size: 17px; margin: 40px auto; padding: 16px; width: 700px;"><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">mathétés: a disciple
Original Word: μαθητής, οῦ, ὁ's
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: mathétés
Phonetic Spelling: (math-ay-tes')
Short Definition: a learner, disciple, pupil
Definition: a learner, disciple, pupil.
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If teaching the truth about tithing is a waste of time, then how would tithe teachers respond to Apostle Paul in <a forcediv="true" forceinline="true" href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbiblehub.com%2Facts%2F20-31.htm&h=OAQG2JIH_&s=1" original_target="http://biblehub.com/acts/20-31.htm/&h=oaqg2jih_&s=1" rel="nofollow" saprocessedanchor="true" style="color: #365899; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank"><span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Acts 20:31</span></a><div mcballoonconfig="{"IsPremium":true,"features":{"cashback":false,"showOnlyHackersafe":false,"highlite":false,"productName":"McAfee WebAdvisor","showIcons":true},"resources":{"siteReportLinkText":"Read site report","siteReport":{"args":"&","baseURL":"https://www.mcafee.com/threat-intelligence/site/default.aspx?url="},"CCHeader":"Site Content:","recommendations":{"20008":"This link isn't rated","20009":"This link is suspicious","20010":"This link is safe","20031":"Tested Daily","20033":"This link is dangerous","20034":"Cash Back might be available on this McAfee SECURE site. Visit site for details."},"upsellInfo":{"display":false},"categories":{"143":"Religion/Ideology","188":"Blogs/Wiki"}}}" mclinkinfo="{"linkConfig":{"disableLink":false,"icon":"balloon_safe_annotation.png","highlightColor":"#CCFFCC","color":"green","iconWidth":16,"iconHeight":16},"hackerSafe":false,"cashback":false,"recommendation":20010,"categories":[143],"score":"OK","actualScore":"OK","colour":"green","dossierUrl":"https://www.mcafee.com/threat-intelligence/site/default.aspx?url=http%3A//biblehub.com/acts/20-31.htm/%26h%3Doaqg2jih_%26s%3D1/-","domain_specifier":"","CCList":"{}","displayURL":"http://biblehub.com/acts/20-31.htm/&h=oaqg2jih_&s=..."}" style="cursor: auto; display: inline; float: none; height: 16px; margin-left: 2px; padding: 0px; position: relative;">
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who spent a lot of time in warning about wolves unceasingly instead of winning souls(?!?!)
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Also most of the tithe teachers simply ask unbelievers to utter that "sinner's prayer" and certify that they have been saved!!!! They show no concern about true change of heart. Tithe expert Dr. David Croteau (dissertation in tithing for his Ph.D) has written excellent posts in his blog about alter calls: <a forcediv="true" forceinline="true" href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fslaveoftheword.blogspot.com%2F2006%2F05%2Fargument-for-altar-calls-analyzed.html&h=UAQElpinq&s=1" original_target="http://slaveoftheword.blogspot.com/2006/05/argument-for-altar-calls-analyzed.html/&h=uaqelpinq&s=1" rel="nofollow" saprocessedanchor="true" style="color: #365899; cursor: pointer; text-decoration: none;" target="_blank">http://slaveoftheword.blogspot.com/2006/05/argument-for-altar-calls-analyzed.html</a><div mcballoonconfig="{"IsPremium":true,"features":{"cashback":false,"showOnlyHackersafe":false,"highlite":false,"productName":"McAfee WebAdvisor","showIcons":true},"resources":{"siteReportLinkText":"Read site report","siteReport":{"args":"&","baseURL":"https://www.mcafee.com/threat-intelligence/site/default.aspx?url="},"CCHeader":"Site Content:","recommendations":{"20008":"This link isn't rated","20009":"This link is suspicious","20010":"This link is safe","20031":"Tested Daily","20033":"This link is dangerous","20034":"Cash Back might be available on this McAfee SECURE site. Visit site for details."},"upsellInfo":{"display":false},"categories":{"143":"Religion/Ideology","188":"Blogs/Wiki"}}}" mclinkinfo="{"linkConfig":{"disableLink":false,"icon":"balloon_safe_annotation.png","highlightColor":"#CCFFCC","color":"green","iconWidth":16,"iconHeight":16},"hackerSafe":false,"cashback":false,"recommendation":20010,"categories":[188],"score":"OK","actualScore":"OK","colour":"green","dossierUrl":"https://www.mcafee.com/threat-intelligence/site/default.aspx?url=http%3A//slaveoftheword.blogspot.com/2006/05/argument-for-altar-calls-analyzed.html/%26h%3Duaqelpinq%26s%3D1/-","domain_specifier":"","CCList":"{}","displayURL":"http://slaveoftheword.blogspot.com/2006/05/argumen..."}" style="cursor: auto; display: inline; float: none; height: 16px; margin-left: 2px; padding: 0px; position: relative;">
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. Tithe teachers are quick to water baptize anyone with ulterior motives, ie) just to collect money from them (by making them members and regular attendees of their churches)
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Are we obsessed ONLY with tithing?</span>
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Tithe teachers assume that we are ONLY interested in the topic of tithing and accuse of over emphasizing the topic of tithing, hence going out of balance.
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Specializing on a Biblical topic is not over emphasizing nor going out of balance. For example some are specialists in the topic of Christian Apologetics, some are experts in debunking the myth of evolution, some are experts in Biblical languages etc. It does not mean they are one sided. It is like telling a Cardiologist or a Dermatologist about over emphasizing in their respective specialties and not caring about other diseases/areas of the body!
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Also tithing is not our ONLY interest. Russel Earl Kelly has done a lot of research about the Seventh Day Adventists, David Croteau is a professor in New Testament Greek and written about various other topics as well. Rory Moore and Eric Hill who have written books about the tithing truth cast out demons when they encounter them which is simply avoided by most of the tithe teachers. A lot of other anti-tithes in Facebook and in the internet have their own areas of expertise and a lot of other things too apart from tithing research.
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<span class="_4yxo _4yxr" style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">Disagreement among anti-tithers:</span>
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It is true that the tithe opponents have a lot of disagreements about the nuances in the topic of tithing. Some of us have have different views about multiple tithes, how the 3 tithes were paid during the 7 year cycle, whether animal tithes went to the Levites or to the Priests, Whether Abram tithe to Melchizadek was a tax, was Melchizadek was a pagan, tithing during post exile etc.,
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Having different views about various aspects of tithing by itself will no prove us wrong, in fact it proves how complex the subject of tithing is. Doing research about tithing and having an honest discussions about tithing is much better that summing up tithing in simplistic terms such as "The local church is the New Testament storehouse, therefore bring 10% from the gross amount from your paycheck to the local church".
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In spite of our differences about the minute details about tithing we all agree on the following important truths about tithing and we have no questions about the following:
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1. Tithes were never referred to earned income or money and it was only from the produce of the land and from the livestock
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2. Only the nation of Israel was required pay tithes to the Levites ONLY while living INSIDE the promised land
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3. In the New Testament Christians are not required to tithe and no one can tithe according to the Biblical prescription, even if they want to, in the New Testament period.</div>
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Our modern day tithe teachers are leaving an indelible impression in the minds of their followers that the ancient Jews tithed only 10% of their gross income and demand that Christians must also tithe 10% of their gross income to their local Churches.
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However, to make such an assumption is totally false and contrary to the scriptures.
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There were multiple tithes prescribed in the Mosaic law contrary to popular opinion. Let us focus on the 3rd tithe in this article.
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Definition of the 3rd tithe:
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After the Sabbatical year, on every third and sixth year the farm owning Israelites must keep the increase of their produce within their gates and distribute it to the Levites, the widows, the poor and the strangers.
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The 3rd tithe is also known as:
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<span class="_4yxo _4yxp" style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">Ma'aser Ani</span></div>
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<span class="_4yxo _4yxp" style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">The Charity tithe</span></div>
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<span class="_4yxo _4yxp" style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">Tithe for the poor</span></div>
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<span class="_4yxo _4yxp" style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">Welfare tithe</span></div>
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Some of the distinct things about the 3rd tithe were, little to no traveling and transportation involved and this is the only tithe for which God promises to bless the works of the giver. No promises were given for the givers of the 1st and 2nd tithes in the Mosaic law. Also after paying the 3rd tithe the tithers were required to offer a specific declaration and a prayer as prescribed in Deuteronomy 26:13-15. There are no instructions in the Mosaic law to offer any specific prayer after paying the 1st or 2nd tithes.
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Proof from the law of Moses (Scriptures about the 3rd tithe):
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Deuteronomy 14:28</span>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Deuteronomy 14:29</span>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Deuteronomy 26:12 – 15</span>
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<span class="_4yxo _4yxr" style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">Questions and Answers about the third tithe:</span>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">1. What was tithable as the third tithe?</span>
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One tenth of the increase in the produce. Money (Shekel) is not mentioned and the cattle are not mentioned either.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">2. Who were the recipients?</span>
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The Levites, the widows, the poor and the strangers (aliens) were the recipients and the final owners of this tithe.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">3. Where should they bring the tithes?</span>
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Within their gates and within the boundaries of their town.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">4. What was the purpose?</span>
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In order that the Lord God of Israel may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">5. How often it should be paid?</span>
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Every third year, that was on the 3rd and 6th year from the Sabbatical year.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">6. Was it redeemable?</span>
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No, it could not be redeemed. It must be given out and no redemption option was specified in the Mosiac law. The third tithe must not be converted into money.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">7. When it was paid?</span>
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At the END of the 3rd year.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">8. Were livestock involved?</span>
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No, animals were not part of the 3rd tithe.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">9. What was the difference between the third tithe and the other two tithes?</span>
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First tithe should be brought to the nearest Levite cities and the second tithe should be brought to Jerusalem.</div>
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The purpose of the first tithe was to compensate the Levites for their loss of inheritance among the rest of the 11 tribes.</div>
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The purpose of the second tithe was to teach the fear of the Lord to the Jews.
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Levites become the final owners of the first tithe, the tithers themselves become the owners of the second tithes.</div>
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Only the members of the tribe of Levi were the recipients of the first tithe. The tithers themselves consumed the second tithe with their household.</div>
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First tithes could be eaten anywhere by the Levites and the 2nd tithes could be eaten only in Jerusalem.
First tithes must be paid yearly and the second tithes must also be paid yearly but only during festival times which included the first born animal.</div>
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For the first tithe, if the tither wants to redeem the tithes from the land they must add 20% of the monetary value as a fine and give it to the Levites.</div>
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However the livestock were not redeemable.</div>
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For the second tithe, no redemption option was specified. The second tithes might be converted into money however in Jerusalem they must use the same money to buy oxen, or sheep, or wine, or strong drink, or whatever their heart desired. No penalty was applicable if the 2nd tithe was converted into money.
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Levites got the Livestock (tenth animal that passed under the rod) and the first born male animals were part of feasts and participated the 2nd tithes.</div>
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All other tribes traveled an average distance depending upon the location of the Levitical towns to deliver the first tithes. No river crossing involved.</div>
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For the 2nd tithe, the Northern tribes like Asher, Naphtali, Zebulen and Issachar traveled the longest distance to Jerusalem. The trans-Jordan tribes had to cross the Jordan river and obviously boats were involved in transportation.
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No promise (to bless the giver) associated with the 1st and 2nd tithes in the Law. The promise in Malachi 3 was specific to those who have returned from the exile when they were rediscovering their culture, religion and language. Test me <span class="_4yxo _4yxr" style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">NOW</span>....</div>
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Scriptures for 1st tithe: Leviticus 27:30 – 33 & Scriptures for the 2nd tithe: Deuteronomy 12:5 – 7 & Deuteronomy 14:22 – 26</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">10. Is there proof outside the scriptures?</span>
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Yes, there are 2 important proofs outside the 66 books of the Bible.
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">a) Famous Jewish historian Flavius Josephus who lived in the first century:</span>
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Antiquities of the Jews – Book 4, Chapter 8 and verse 22
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“Besides those two tithes, which I have already said you are to pay every year, the one for the Levites, the other for the festivals, you are to bring every third year a third tithe to be distributed to those that want; to women also that are widows, and to children that are orphans.”
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">b) The Apocryphal book of Tobit:</span></div>
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Tobit the son of Tobiel, son of Ananiel, son of Aduel, son of Gabael, of the descendants of Asiel and the tribe of Naphtali in his own words.
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Tobit 1:6 – But I alone went often to Jerusalem for the feasts, as it is ordained for all Israel by an everlasting decree.
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Taking the first fruits and the tithes of my produce and the first shearings, I would give these to the priests, the sons of Aaron, at the altar.
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Tobit 1:7 – Of all my produce I would give a tenth to the sons of Levi who ministered at Jerusalem; a second tenth I would sell, and I would go and spend the proceeds each year at Jerusalem;
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Tobit 1:8 – the third tenth I would give to those to whom it was my duty, as Deborah my father’s mother had commanded me, for I was left an orphan by my father.
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<span class="_4yxo _4yxr" style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">11. Are there any objections about the 3rd tithe?</span>
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Yes, there are.
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a) The 12 century Jewish Halachic arbitrator Moses ben-Maimon called Maimonides also known as HaRambam
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Maimonides: “On the third and sixth years from the sabbatical year, after they have separated the first tithe, they separate from what remains another tithe, and give it to the poor, and it is called the poor’s tithe; and not on those two years is the second tithe, but the poor’s tithe.” — Gill on Deuteronomy 14:28; Maimonides, Hilchot Mattanot Anayim, c. 6, sect. 4. See also Speaker’s Commentary on Deuteronomy 14:28-29, and McClintock and Strong’s Cyclopaedia, vol. 10. p. 433.]
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b) Selden and Michaelis also argue in the same direction, saying that a third tithe should be an excessive demand upon the income of a man who had already expended two-tenths of his increase (McClintock and Strongs Cyclopaedia, vol. 10, p. 434).
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c) Peake likewise says: “It may be urged that it is not probable that a double tribute should be exacted from the crops.” And again: “Nor is it probable that a tax of nearly one-fifth of the whole produce should be imposed on the farmers.” (Article “Tithe,” in Hastings Dictionary of the Bible, I, p. 780.)
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d) Jewish Talmud (Mishna & Gemmarah)
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">12. So did the Jews pay only the welfare tithe (which we call as the 3rd tithe) on the 3rd and 6th years instead of the 1st and/or 2nd tithes?</span>
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<span class="_4yxr" style="text-decoration: underline;">Here are the answers to the objections:</span>
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a) Deuteronomy 26:12 mentions about “the year of tithing” because years 3 and 6 were the most expensive year for the Jews.
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b) If the 3rd tithe had replaced the 1st tithe how did the Levites survive for those 2 years because they paid this tithes only at the end of the 3rd and 6th years
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c) If the 3rd tithe had replaced the 2nd tithe did the Jews not celebrate the 3 pilgrimage festivals during the 3rd and 6th years or did they celebrate the 3 pilgrimage festivals without bringing any food to Jerusalem?
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d) The Levites needed to survive during the sabbatical year. Therefore they got tithes twice during years 3 and 6, especially on year 6.
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e) There is no verse in the Old Testament which says (as its primary subject) that the 3rd tithe should be replaced by 1st and/or 2nd tithes during the 3rd and 6th years.
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f) Christians do not believe in the Jewish concept of the oral law. Post-exile Jewish Rabbis added a lot of man made laws and interpretations into their lives. Therefore the 39 books of the Old testament is enough to justify that there was a 3rd tithe apart from the first two. We need not rely upon the interpretations of HaRambam and Rashi.
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g) Even though Jewish commentators overwhelmingly agree with Maimonides’ interpretation of the 3rd tithe, Abraham Ibn Ezra, a contemporary of Maimonides who was also a great Jewish commentator recognized that the 3rd tithe was distinct from the other two.
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">13. Did the Christian Church Fathers write about the 3rd tithe?</span>
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Yes, a few of them wrote about the 3rd tithe.</div>
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a) Jerome who included the book of Tobit in the Latin Bible (Vulgate)
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Jerome says one tithe was given to the Levites, out of which they gave a tenth to the priests; a second tithe was applied to festival purposes, and a third was given to the poor (Commentary on Ezekiel 45:1, 565. quoted in McClintock and Strong, 10, 434).
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b) John Chrysostom who was Archbishop of Constantinople (349–407 A.D) and a contemporary of Jerome believed that multiple tithes existed:
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Homily 64 on Matthew 19:27 section 4
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And how much did they bestow in alms? One may ask. For this very thing, I am minded to say now, that they who do not give may be roused to give, and they that give may not pride themselves, but may make increase of their gifts. What then did they give? A tenth of all their possessions, and again another tenth, and after this a third, so that they almost gave away the third part, for three-tenths put together make up this. And together with these, first fruits, and first born, and other things besides, as, for instance, the offerings for sins, those for purification, those at feasts, those in the jubilee, those by the canceling of debts, and the dismissals of servants, and the lendings that were clear of usury. But if he who gave the third part of his goods, or rather the half (for those being put together with these are the half), if then he who is giving the half, achieves no great thing, he who does not bestow so much as the tenth, of what shall he be worthy? With reason He said, “There are few that be saved.”
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Hebrew words used regarding the 3rd tithe:
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al-maw-naw’ – Widow
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ger – alien, stranger, immigrants, sojourner
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yaw-thome’ – orphan
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teb-oo-aw’ – Produce, revenue, gain
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NASB Word Usage
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crop (4), crops (6), gain (1), harvest (4), income (4), increase (3), produce (10), product (3), revenue (2), yield (5), yield may increase (1).
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We have been taught by our modern day word of faith preachers that tithing is a “law of prosperity” and they demand tithes from widows, orphans and aliens contrary to what the Israelites practiced. If widows, poor, aliens and orphans were the recipients of the tithe, then how would their “law of prosperity” become applicable to windows, orphans, poor and aliens? In fact many mammon loving preaches live a luxurious life using tithes from widows who live from their social security/pension. They misuse Malachi 3:10 where it says “Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse…” but totally ignore about this important triennial tithe which actually promises ” in order that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do” – <span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Deuteronomy 14:29b</span>.
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In many Churches tithing is a requirement for membership. Why don’t they deny membership to those who refuse to tithe to the widows, orphans, poor and strangers? How can they deny membership to widows and poor who cannot afford to tithe especially if they have huge medical bills to pay as in the case of Loretta Davis. Please read how Loretta was kicked out of the Church for not paying tithes.
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<pre class="_19ik" dir="ltr" style="background-color: #f6f7f9; color: #1d2129; font-size: 17px; margin: 40px auto; padding: 16px; width: 700px;"><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;"><span class="_4yxo _4yxp" style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">A 65-year-old wheelchair-bound woman with congestive heart failure was kicked out of her church because she was not paying her tithe, NBC 4 reported. Loretta Davis told NBC 4’s Mike Bowersock she was shocked when she received a letter saying she was no longer considered a member of her church, The Living Word Tabernacle. Davis made an agreement with the church that she would give 10 percent of her income. Then she became ill and stopped making payments, so the church revoked her membership. “Since Jan. 5, I’ve been in the hospital 15 times,” Davis said. “I’ve suffered with cellulites since I’ve had the open heart (surgery).” Davis is no longer paying the church $60 per month from her $592 per month Social Security check, Bowersock reported. “I have my tithes that I was supposed to pay, but I have not paid them since this has went on,” Davis said. “In the time of (Davis’) need, they should be caring, supporting, asking what she needs — help her if she needed help,” said Teresa Meeks, who is Davis’ daughter. “I was so hurt on what they did to her.” The church moved out of its building in Waverly earlier this year and Davis’ dismissal has become the talk of the town, Bowersock reported. In a letter to the editor of the local paper, the former pastor said it is true that Davis lost her membership for not paying her tithes. In the same letter, he said Davis was not kicked out of the church for not paying her tithes. The Rev. Paul McClurg, who started the church, said Davis is still welcome to attend church but is not allowed to be a member. The issue upset Davis’ 83-year-old mother so much that she quit the church. The members have been holding services in a Lion’s Club hall while waiting to build a new church. There are at least two former members who will not be attending with them.”</span></span></pre>
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Only for the 3rd tithe a return blessing is promised in the Mosaic law unlike the first 2 tithes. Why this principle is ignored by the prosperity preachers today? Testing God in Malachi 3:10 was specific to the Jews who returned from the Babylonian captivity and not to the Christian Church!
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Tithe teachers gleefully quote Jerome and Chrysostom as tithe proponents in the early Christianity but hide the fact those 2 men also believed in multiple tithes.
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Christians, please understand, how tithing was practiced in the Old Testament period and be on guard against the mammon loving wolves.
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How many tithes? Here is a brief description about all 3 tithes:
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Tithe # 1 – Ma’aser Rishon was a tenth of the crops and the tenth animal that passes through the rod every year. The Levites were the recipients and this tithe could be eaten anywhere in Israel. Sub-tithe: A tenth of this tithe must be given to the Priests. Livestock was not redeemable but the crops were by paying 20% of money in addition to the actual value.
Other name(s): Levitical tithe, first tithe
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Tithe #2 – Ma’aser Sheni was a tenth of the crops only, not livestock. But Jews were commanded to add the firstborn animals, but not a tenth of the animals. The original owners are the recipients, could be eaten only in Jerusalem. Buy back option not available. This tithe could be converted to money for transportation purposes only but in Jerusalem the same money must be used to buy food and it must be eaten by the owners, their families, relatives and the Levites. This tithe must be paid every year in one of the 3 festivals. No sub-tithe involved.
Other name(s): Festival tithe, feast tithe
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Tithe # 3 – Ma’aser Ani every 3rd year of the 7 year cycle. Windows, orphans, Levites and the poor were the receipients and it should be only eaten within the gates of the city. No sub-tithe involved.
Other name(s): Welfare tithe, charity tithe, poor tithe
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The total of all three tithes = 20% over a 7-year period / 23.3% over a 6 year period as follows:
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Year 2 = 10% (Tithe #1) + 10% (Tithe #2) = 20%
Year 3 = 10% (Tithe #1) + 10% (Tithe #2) + 10% (Tithe #3) = 30%
Year 4 = 10% (Tithe #1) + 10% (Tithe #2) = 20%
Year 5 = 10% (Tithe #1) + 10% (Tithe #2) = 20%
Year 6 = 10% (Tithe #1) + 10% (Tithe #2) + 10% (Tithe #3) = 30%
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Year 7 = 0% – the seventh year land Sabbath
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140% / 7 = 20% – in 7 years
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Tithe Teachers Attempt to “Prove” That Tithing Was Non-food items ALSO from the Bible!</span></h3>
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<span class="_4yxo _4yxr" style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">Question</span><span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">:</span> Abram’s booty must have consisted of silver and gold and othernon-food items, then how can the tithe opponents say that tithing was <span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">only</span> from food?</div>
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<span class="_4yxo _4yxr" style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;">Answer</span><span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">: </span>First of all, Abram's tithe was a description of an event, a narrative, something that took place in the ancient days. It was not a prescription from God when Abram tithed to Melchizadek.</div>
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In Genesis 14:20b the "And he gave him tithes of all" does not specify what that"all" consisted of?</div>
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In Genesis 14:24 Abram makes a reference about food though - <span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">“Save only that which the young men have</span> <span class="_4yxp _4yxr" style="font-style: italic; text-decoration: underline;">eaten</span><span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">, and the portion of the men whichwent with me, Aner, Eshcol, and Mamre; let them take their portion” - KJV.</span></div>
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However Hebrews 7:4 unambiguously declares that Abram gave "the best of the spoils" - the Koine Greek word "<span class="_4yxo _4yxp" style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">akrothinion</span>" literally means"the top of a heap" - implying food. 2 Kings 7 says huge quantities of barleyand flour were recovered from the abandoned Syrian camp.</div>
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While it was possible to conclude that Abram's spoils consisted of silver and gold is within the limits of reason, we have to bear in mind that Abram's tithe might have consisted of the following materials as well:</div>
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a) Idols representing pagan deities (King David ordered to burn the idols of the Philistines and King Amaziah took the idols of the defeated Edomites and worshiped him)</div>
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b) War materials such as spears, shields, swords, javelins, breast plates etc.</div>
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c)Prisoners of war</div>
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d) Horses and mules</div>
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e) Clothes</div>
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f) Jewels</div>
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g) Crowns worn by the defeated Kings and other items worn to represent the commander/officer ranks</div>
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However according to Hebrews 7:4 Abram tithed ONLY the "BEST of the Spoils" -we do not know what the “best of the spoils” consisted of.</div>
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Regardless,Abram's tithe incident was a description of a historical event. It was not a prescription either for the Jews or for the Christians.</div>
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In ancient Roman, Greek, Carthaginian, Cretan, Silician, Phoenician,</div>
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Chinese,Babylonian, Akkadian, Egyptian, Assyrian, Canaanite, Ugaritic, Morrocan,Persian, Lydian, Syrian, Sumerian, and South Arabian societies practiced tithing but their practices varied in terms of where they gave it, when they gave it, the voluntary nature and the amount.</div>
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<span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">The diversity of the practices between these societies was greater than the consistency.</span></div>
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For example in Arabia tithes were paid on frankincense … but on ground that was watered by rain (i.e. by Baal) twenty percent was due. Does that mean Christians were required to tithe from Frankincense?</div>
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Tithing was introduced as a prescription only in Leviticus 27 and that reveals God's blue print for tithing and we should not take other examples before the Law of Moses as an example.</div>
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Tithe Teachers Offer Various "Proofs" "From Scriptures" For Monetary Tithes! </div>
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Some of their “proofs” include:</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">1. There is no explicit statement in the Bible that tithing was only from food and not from money</span></div>
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2. Abram's booty consisted of non-food items</div>
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3. Jacob's promised to tithe from all he would get</div>
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4. Money is mentioned in a tithing context in Leviticus 27 and in Deuteronomy 14</div>
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5. Jews stored silver, gold and other non-food items in the storehouses</div>
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6. The self-righteous Pharisee in Luke 18:12 tithed from his salary</div>
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7. The Ma'aser Kesofim argument - Ma'aser Kesofim - Hebrew expression for </div>
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Let us examine one by one!</div>
<pre class="_19ik" dir="ltr" style="background-color: #f6f7f9; color: #1d2129; font-size: 17px; margin: 40px auto; padding: 16px; width: 700px;"><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;"><span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">1. There is no direct statement in the Bible defining the tithes as money. Tithe opponents take implied meaning by cherry picking the scriptures and derive their own conclusions that tithing is not money to fit their anti-tithing agenda. Without an explicit statement, we cannot come to a conclusion that tithing was only from food.</span></span></pre>
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Well, there is no direct statement in the Bible about the following either:</div>
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<li class="_2cuy _509q _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; list-style-type: disc; margin: 0px auto 12px; text-align: left; white-space: pre-wrap; width: auto; word-wrap: break-word;">Nowhere in the Bible, it is explicitly stated that the Canon has been closed</li>
<li class="_2cuy _509q _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; list-style-type: disc; margin: 0px auto 12px; text-align: left; white-space: pre-wrap; width: auto; word-wrap: break-word;">Nowhere in the Bible, it is stated that the Divine inspiration of the written scriptures have stopped after the book of Revelation</li>
<li class="_2cuy _509q _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; list-style-type: disc; margin: 0px auto 12px; text-align: left; white-space: pre-wrap; width: auto; word-wrap: break-word;">Nowhere in the Bible it is stated that Old Testament should consist of 39 books and the New Testament should consist of 27 books and the Protestant Canon is the only acceptable scripture.</li>
<li class="_2cuy _509q _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; list-style-type: disc; margin: 0px auto 12px; text-align: left; white-space: pre-wrap; width: auto; word-wrap: break-word;">Nowhere in the Bible, it is directly stated that slavery is wrong, Christians should not own slaves.</li>
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So what? Without an explicit teaching from the Bible, most of the tithe teachers believe all of the above or most of the above.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Example of Jesus giving implied meaning:</span></div>
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In Matthew 22:31-32 - Even Jesus told the Sadducees that Exodus 3:6 mentions about the resurrection of the dead. Exodus 3:6 does not explicitly state that the dead would be resurrected but mentions about Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;"> present tense</span>, therefore it implies about future resurrection. That is Jesus’ point.</div>
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Therefore there is nothing wrong in concluding that tithes were only from the produce of the land and from cattle.</div>
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Bible were only from food and livestock and that is the <span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">empirical definition</span> based upon the prescriptions given in the Law of Moses. </div>
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Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8267115130392158698.post-24695074207529718492016-11-27T00:23:00.000-05:002016-11-27T00:23:18.306-05:00Referring To Extra-Biblical Sources For Research Purposes<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Question: Why do you go outside of the 66 inspired books and quote from the Apocryphal book of Tobit, historian Flavius Josephus, Church History, Church Fathers, the Jewish Tamlud and other uninspired sources? It shows that you don't honor the canonicity of the Scriptures and shows that you are so desparate to prove your points even using uninspired sources, the ends cannot justify the means. Learn to stay within the 66 inspired books and respect the canon.</span></div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">However there is nothing wrong in quoting, alluding to or referring to extra-Biblical sources. The purpose is just to give an FYI to the readers and present it as an additional information for research purposes. It does not mean declaring those extra-Biblical sources as Divinely inspired.</span></div>
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Even the Canonized scriptures refer to/allude to/quote extra-Biblical sources, under Diving Inspiration. That does not mean Biblical writers are wrong in going outside the scripture or attributing divine authority to extra-Biblical sources. The Holy Spirit directed them to make a point using some extra-Biblical sources. </div>
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Some examples are given below:</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">The Book of Jasher </span>mentioned in Joshua 10:12-13 when the Lord stopped the sun in the middle of the day during the battle of Beth Horon. Mentioned in 2 Samuel 1:18-27 as containing the Song or Lament of the Bow, funeral song for King Saul & Jonathan</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Book of the Wars of the Lord</span> mentioned in Numbers 21:14 the Book of Samuel the Seer, mentioned in 1 Chronicles 29:29the Book of Nathan the Prophet, mentioned in 1 Chronicles 29:29the Book of Gad the Seer mentioned in 1 Chronicles 29:29, Acts of Rehoboam and the Chronicles of the Kings of Judah - 1 Kings 14:29</div>
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Solomon composed more than a thousand songs (1 Kings 4:32), yet only two are preserved in the book of Psalms (72 and 127). </div>
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Even in the New Testament Paul quoted from extra-Biblical sources under divine inspiration.</div>
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Paul included a quotation from the Cretan poet Epimenides (Titus 1:12) and quoted from the poets Epimenides and Aratus in his speech at Athens (Acts 17:28). </div>
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Does that mean Paul dishonored the inspired Scriptures and gave legitimacy to secular philosophers?</div>
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Jude 14 quoted in Book of Enoch (Assumption of Moses)</div>
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Hebrews 11:37 (sawn in two) - The Ascension of Isaiah 1:9, 5:2, 12</div>
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Song of Songs, Ecclesiastes, Esther, Obadiah, Zephaniah, Judges,1 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, Lamentations & Nahum - never quoted by the New Testament writers.</div>
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Matthew 27:42-43 alluding to Wisdom 2:12-20</div>
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Romans 1:19-25 alluding to Wisdom 12 & 13</div>
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Hebrews 11:35 refers to 2 Maccabees 7</div>
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Lord Jesus Himself alluding to Sirach 27:6 when He talked about fruit bearing trees.</div>
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Some people say that Jesus celebrated Hannukah referring to John 10:22-23, don't want to open another can of worms by going in that tangent.</div>
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We can go on and on if we dig deeper into Septuagint vs. Masoretic text, various manuscripts etc., </div>
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Hope this helps!</div>
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Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8267115130392158698.post-4535125727454728042016-11-27T00:22:00.000-05:002016-11-27T00:22:07.751-05:00Intellectual dishonesty of Tithe teachers and their (some of their) tactics!<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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Existed before the law</div>
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Eternal moral principle</div>
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Tithing is the 11th commandment</div>
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God's insurance policy</div>
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God’s plan for your financial security</div>
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God's best kept secret</div>
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Your tithe testifies that he's alive!</div>
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DEBT is an acronym = D-oing E-verything B-ut T-ithing</div>
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Local Church is modern day storehouse</div>
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Describing first fruits as tithes ...</div>
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Abram's tithe was from the spoils of a battle and tithe teachers present it as if Abram were tithing on a monthly basis. Jacob made a conditional wow if God brings him back to the promised land. There is no option to make vows on what already belonged to God. Leviticus 27 is about vow making and proves what can be vowed and what cannot be wowed. Only agricultural products and livestock were titheable items in the Old Testament and money was never used in tithing! Misuse and abuse of Malachi 3. The context is God addressing dishonest Priests and not the general public, Matthew 23:23/Luke 11:42 - Jesus was talking to the Pharisees living the law and not to Christians</div>
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Bluntly saying that Church Fathers taught tithing by quoting Augustine, Jerome and Chrysostom. The truth is Augustine, Jerome and Chrysostom were NOT EARLY church fathers, Augustine sold everything he had and became a monk, Jerome wanted Christians to celebrate the year of Jubilee and Chrysostom mentioned all 3 tithes. </div>
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The EARLY church fathers, Ireneous, Justin Martyr, Tertulian and others did not support tithing.</div>
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This is nothing but using true facts to draw false conclusions. Abraham tithing and Jacob tithing were simply description of events and they are prescriptions for neither Jews nor Christians. Abraham had concubines and lied. </div>
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Jacob deceived his father and showed partiality among his sons. </div>
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Can we follow those examples too?</div>
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"Hey I started tithing and my debts disappear and now I am prosperous" - we hear this often. But the prosperity gospel is not working for MANY who DO TITHE.</div>
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What about atheists, people belonging to other religions and ungodly people becoming rich, buying mansions, flying private jets and becoming prosperous after donating to ungodly causes.</div>
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Tithing existed before the law, therefore Christians should also continue to tithe. Well, the custom of a widow marrying her deceased husband's nearest male relative, (the Levirate law, Yibbum, Halitzah), slavery, animal sacrifice and polygamy - all existed before the law, codified into the law and discussed in the New Testament.</div>
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If the tithe teachers follow consistent logic, shouldn't they follow other practices that existed before the law as well?</div>
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Calling Christians who question them about tithing as "Heresy hunters, unwilling to submit, rebellious, disrespecting spiritual authority, independent spirit, divisive, subversive, mere head knowledge, lack of revelation, ungrateful etc.," Calling for clandestine meetings, power plays and taking control of the whole situation, yelling and screaming are some of the intimidation methods used by tithe teachers.</div>
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One example is attacking theologian Russell Earl Kelly's credentials. According to Wikipedia: "Critics say that because his education is from unaccredited schools his Ph.D. is fraudulent. Others will challenge Russell's sincerely and his motives. In response, Russell provides a webpage regarding his education and abilities, including having graduated "cum laude". from the Yale University Institutes of Far Eastern languages while in the U.S. Air Force, earning 22 semester hours and received a B.A. from Southern University Of Seventh Day Adventist, which is fully accredited. He notes that there are hundreds of religious schools that do not want the government telling them how or what to teach.</div>
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Having been legally blind since 1989 and not able to drive, his choices of education were severely limited"</div>
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Tithe teachers look for opportunities to poke into the personal lives of anti-tithers and try launch a smear campaign.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Genesis 45:22</span></div>
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To all of them he gave each man changes of clothing; but to Benjamin he gave three hundred pieces of silver, and five changes of clothing.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Genesis 45:13</span></div>
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And you shall tell my father of all my glory in Egypt, and of all that you have seen; and you shall haste and bring down my father here.</div>
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Hebrew: <span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">ū·mi·har·tem</span> - hurry, haste</div>
<pre class="_19ik" dir="ltr" style="background-color: #f6f7f9; color: #1d2129; font-size: 17px; margin: 40px auto; padding: 16px; width: 700px;"><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">Jacob did not tell <span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">"Hey Benjamin, tithing is an eternal moral principle and our family tradition and make sure you tithe 30 pieces of silver to Melichzadek and then come back to Egypt</span>" (<span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">The Septuagint says 30 pieces of gold but that is besides the point</span>)</span></pre>
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Also it is important to notice that Jacob did not insist Benjamin to pay his tithe out of the 300 pieces of silver 1st before starting the journey. Jacob wasted no time in wrapping up the tents and proceeding to Egypt.</div>
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Wondering why neither Jacob nor Joseph within whom the Spirit of God was dwelling, did not teach the "concept of the eternal moral principle" to Benjamin.</div>
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Hmmm...... it looks like even Jacob broke his own vow!</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Genesis 45:23</span></div>
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And to his father he sent after this manner; ten donkeys laden with the good things of Egypt, and ten she-donkeys laden with grain and bread and food for his father by the way.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Genesis 28:22</span></div>
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And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that you shall give me I will surely give the tenth unto you.</div>
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Jacob did not bother to tithe out of the good things of Egypt, grain, bread and food!!!</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Luke 18:12</span></div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.</span> - KJV</div>
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Other translations use get, gain, income</div>
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Our modern day tithe teachers quote Luke 18:12 and tell us that tithing was paid in the form of money during the time of Jesus.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Let us see what the Greek says:</span></div>
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Strong's Greek: 2932. κτάομαι (ktaomai) — 7 Occurrences</div>
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Example: Luke 18:12</div>
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I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. - KJV</div>
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I fast twice a week; I pay tithes of all that I get - NASB</div>
<pre class="_19ik" dir="ltr" style="background-color: #f6f7f9; color: #1d2129; font-size: 17px; margin: 40px auto; padding: 16px; width: 700px;"><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">Matthew 10:9 Acquire or provide gold/silver/copper</span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">
</span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">Luke 18:12 possess or get - ?????</span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">
</span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">Luke 21:19 gain or possess lives/souls</span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">
</span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">Acts 1:18 get or purchase or acquire land/real estate/property</span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">
</span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">Acts 8:20 obtain or purchase the gift of God </span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">
</span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">Acts 22:28 acquired or obtained or bought citizenship by money</span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">
</span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">1 Thessalonians 4:4 possess holiness</span></pre>
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The rest of the 6 places where ktaomai is used, are not related to earning money as salary or wage.</div>
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Therefore it is intellectually dishonest to conclude that in Luke 18:12 ktaomai means earned income or money or salary!</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Luke's style is the most literary of all these books. Graham Stanton evaluates the opening of the Gospel of Luke as "the most finely composed sentence in the whole of post-Classical Greek literature."</span></div>
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Knowing Dr. Luke's proficiency and the language skill in Greek, we should wonder why Luke did not use one of the other 2 Greek words for wages: "opsōnia" ὀψώνια and "misthos" μισθὸς</div>
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a) Greek word "opsōnia" ὀψώνια - wages</div>
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Example: Romans 6:23</div>
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For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. - KJV</div>
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For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. - NIV</div>
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Luke 3:14 be content with your wages.</div>
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Romans 6:23 for the wages of sin [is] death;</div>
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1 Corinthians 9:7 his own charges? who</div>
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2 Corinthians 11:8 taking wages [of them]</div>
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b) Greek word "misthos" μισθὸς - wages</div>
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Example: James 5:4</div>
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Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. - NIV</div>
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Behold, the hire of the laborers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, cries: and the cries of them who have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of hosts. - KJV</div>
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μισθὸς (misthos) — 7 Occurrences</div>
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Matthew 5:12 your reward in heaven</div>
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Luke 6:23 your reward is great</div>
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Luke 6:35 your reward will be great,</div>
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Romans 4:4 his wage is not credited</div>
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1 Corinthians 9:18 then is my reward?</div>
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James 5:4 the pay of the laborers, the wage of the workmen, the hire of the labourers</div>
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Revelation 22:12 the reward of me with</div>
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If Jesus was talking about the self-righteous Pharisee paying tithes out of the income he had earned/salary he received, someone who was excellent in the Greek language like Luke would have used either <span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">misthos</span> or <span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">opsōnia</span> instead of ktaomai and Luke himself has used the other 2 words for wages elsewhere!</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">How to interpret Luke 18:12?</span></div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">a) Scenario 1:</span></div>
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There was such an incident that had really happened and Jesus (reported) mentioned it in Luke 18:12 and made a parable out of it.</div>
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If that is the case, the self-righteous Pharisee paid tithes in the form of money to CHARITIES or to the POOR and not to the Levites.</div>
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Because in the Jewish tradition (which was condemned by Jesus as the "leaven of Pharisees") they paid one tenth of the income to CHARITES or to the POOR. Only in a gemara in the Jerusalem Talmud it is mentioned as "Ma'aser Kesafim". So if it was a true incident, this Pharisee was referring to tithing to the POOR or CHARITIES and NOT to the Jewish temple or paying the Levitical tithes.</div>
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Description does not equal to prescription. It is very unlikely that this Pharisee had lied to God that he had been tithing from all his possessions, "tithing from all my possessions" could be a figure of speech!</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">b) Scenario 2:</span></div>
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This was a fiction and did not really happen and Jesus made it up to prove another point in the form of a parable.</div>
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Parables are pictorial, easily grasped, quickly remembered, and attention holders. Jesus used parables to teach great theological truths. The characters mentioned in the parable were not real but they prove a point. </div>
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If this is the case, fasting twice a week and tithing from all possessions did not happen in real life but points out the prideful nature of the Pharisees and how they boasted about their own righteousness even to God!</div>
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How to interpret parables (please refer the link below):</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Other facts about Luke 18:12</span></div>
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1. Tithing is not the primary subject of this verse. It is a passing/incidental remark to distinguish between pride and humility.</div>
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2. It does not command Christians to tithe (and Jews either!)</div>
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3. Author's (Luke's) intent was not to teach about tithing but to teach how God disapproves pride and shows mercy to the humble</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">The Pharisee mentioned in Luke 18:12 lived inside the Promised Land</span></div>
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Tithe teachers forget another important fact about tithing. In order to tithe someone need to LIVE INSIDE the promised land.</div>
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Even if we assume that Luke 18:12 is talking about a true incident and the Pharisee here was paying tithes from his wages, Christians (even Jews) living outside the promised land are still unqualified to tithe just because they live OUTIDE the promised land.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Who was justified: the tither or the non-tither?</span></div>
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Ultimately who was justified by God? It was the tax collector who did not claim to have tithed. God was obviously not impressed by the tithing claims of the Pharisee</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Fasting twice a week:</span></div>
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Another important point we need to observe in Luke 18:12 is "Fast twice a week" which is overlooked by the cherry picking tithe teachers.</div>
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The Exceeding Righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees argument:</div>
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Matthew 5:20</div>
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For I say unto you, that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.</div>
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<span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">Tithe teachers try to make a connection between Matthew 5:20 and Luke 18:12 and teach us that we need to exceed the righteousness of the Pharisee by paying more than 10% to the local church. In other words non-tithers will go to hell, supported by dreams, visions and visitation of certain tithe teachers. Nothing against dreams, visions or visitations, the real ones (given by the Holy Spirit) do not contradict the Bible, those who have claimed to have gotten revelations that non-tithers would go to hell obviously had fake experiences given by deceiving demonic spirits!</span></div>
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Since Luke 18:12 talks about "fasting twice a week", should we fast 3 times a week in order to exceed the righteousness of the Pharisees. Will a Christian go to hell for not fasting 3 times? None of the tithe teachers that we see today fast for 3 times a day but they cherry pick only the "tithing" part.</div>
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Fasting twice a week was never commanded in the Bible neither to the Jews nor for the Christians. Therefore tithing from "all possessions" falls into the same category - not commanded in the Bible.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Who was Tertullian?</span>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Quintus Septimius Florens Tertullianus</span>, anglicised as Tertullian (c. 160–c. 225 AD), was a prolific early Christian author from Carthage in the Roman province of Africa (modern day Tunisia) He is the first Christian author to produce an extensive corpus of Latin Christian literature. He also was a notable early Christian apologist and a polemicist against heresy. Tertullian has been called "the father of Latin Christianity" and "the founder of Western theology." Though conservative, he did originate and advance new theology to the early Church. He is perhaps most famous for being the oldest extant Latin writer to use the term Trinity (Latin, trinitas), and giving the oldest extant formal exposition of a Trinitarian theology. Other Latin formulations that first appear in his work are "three Persons, one Substance" as the Latin "tres Personae, una Substantia" (itself from the Koine Greek "treis Hypostases, Homoousios"). He wrote his trinitarian formula after becoming a Montanist. However, unlike many Church fathers, he was never canonized by the Catholic Church, as several of his later teachings directly contradicted the actions and teachings of the apostles. His trinity formulation was considered heresy by the Church during his lifetime, however, it was later accepted as doctrine at the council of Nicea.
He was born a member of the educated classes, and clearly gained a good education.
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Tertullian was the first Christian writer to write in Latin 5, and was described three centuries later as writing 'first, and best, and incomparably', of all the writers to do so. (by the unknown author of 'Praedestinatus'). His writing is aggressive, sarcastic and brilliant, and at points very funny even after 2000 years. He was deeply conscious of his own failings, and had a burning desire for truth and integrity. He was described by Jerome as celebrated in all the churches as a speaker.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Tertullian's writings imply that he did not believe in tithing for New Testament Christians.</span>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">The Apology, Chapter XXXIX (39)</span>
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No mention about tithing!!!</div>
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The above statement clearly proves that early Christians did not tithe! <span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">What about Thomas Jefferson Powers, the author of "An Historical Study of the Tithe in the Christian Church to 1648" (Publisher, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, 1948), stating that Tertullian believed that tithing was “seemingly” the minimum?</span>
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<pre class="_19ik" dir="ltr" style="background-color: #f6f7f9; color: #1d2129; font-size: 17px; margin: 40px auto; padding: 16px; width: 700px;"><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;"><span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Thomas Jefferson Powers provides no evidence for Tertullian ever saying this.In fact, Tertullian’s own statements above are inconsistent with a mandatory tithe.</span></span></pre>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Miscellaneous:</span>In the "Notes on Tertullian" made by William Meyers, author of Vampires or Gods? (Covering Tertullian's Apology and De Spectaculis translated by T.R. Glover), the following statement occurs.
"I am unwilling to review your rituals ... nor of the tithe of Hercules, of which you do not put one third on his altar." P. 74.
It seems Tertullian did not even like to review the rituals that included tithe.
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Genesis 4:6 -7 in Septuagint:</span> 6 And the Lord God said to Cain, Why art thou become very sorrowful and why is thy countenance fallen? 7 Hast thou not sinned if thou hast brought it rightly, but <span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">not rightly divided it</span>? be still, to thee shall be his submission, and thou shalt rule over him. </h2>
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<span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">Compiled from the Translation by Sir Lancelot C. L. Brenton 1851</span></div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Tithe Teacher Interpretation:</span> The “rightly divided” in LXX Genesis 4:7 clearly proves that Abel had tithed by rightly dividing but Cain gave less than a tenth, therefore God rejected Cain’s sacrifice. This incident proves that tithing was practiced even in the very first family. </div>
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First of all LXX Genesis 4:7 does not "prove" that Abel had tithed. Abel was not commended for tithing but for offering in faith. </div>
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None of the New Testament parallel verses about the Cain and Abel incident indicate any thing related to tithing at all!</div>
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</span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;"><span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">1 John 3:12 - Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.</span></span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">
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</span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;"><span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Jude 11a - Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain</span></span></pre>
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Hebrews 11:4 commends Abel for acting in faith, emphasizing the quality of the sacrifice and not the quantity.</div>
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This is what the same Septuagint says about tithe teachers' all time favorite tithe verses.</div>
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Malachi 3:8 “insulting God” instead of “robbing God” </div>
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Malachi 3:9 Does not mention about “You are cursed with a curse”</div>
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Malachi 3:10 Actually says “ ye have brought all the produce into the storehouses”</div>
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We can never find a tithe teacher quoting the Septuagint version of Malachi 3 because it will be a big blow to their false teaching about tithing. However when it suits their purposes, tithe teachers gleefully use Genesis 4:7. Tithe teachers are masters in selectively omitting Bible verses while over-emphasizing certain other verses.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Malachi 3:8-12 in KJV (Masoretic Text based)</span></h3>
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8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. </div>
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9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. </div>
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10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. </div>
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11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts. </div>
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12 And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the LORD of hosts.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Malachi 3:8-12 in Septuagint</span></h3>
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8 Will a man insult God? for ye insult me. But ye say, Wherein have we insulted thee? In that the tithes and first-fruits are with you still. </div>
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9 And ye do surely look off from me, and ye insult me.</div>
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10 The year is completed, and ye have brought all the produce into the storehouses; but there shall be the plunder thereof in its house: return now on this behalf, saith the Lord Almighty, see if I will not open to you the torrents of heaven, and pour out my blessing upon you, until ye are satisfied. </div>
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11 And I will appoint food for you, and I will not destroy the fruit of your land; and your vine in the field shall not fail, saith the Lord Almighty. </div>
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12 And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a desirable land, saith the Lord Almighty.</div>
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By Dr. David A. Croteau</h2>
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The following arguments are arranged in order of weakest to strongest. </div>
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Furthermore, advocates of tithing sometimes have provided reasons for tithing that do not qualify as arguments. These are not included.</div>
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The arguments have also been broken into three categories: </div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">A. Deceptively Attractive Arguments</span></h3>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(1) Argument from the Garden: </span> God has always set aside a sacred portion for himself. The fact that he did this in the Garden of Eden by setting aside a portion of the trees demonstrates the universality of tithing.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(2) Continuity Argument:</span> The people of God have always given a tenth and Christians should also.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(3) Concession Argument:</span> Christians are supposed to give all, but since they have failed in this, they should at least give a tenth.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(4) Exceeding Righteousness Argument:</span> Christian giving should exceed the giving of the Jews, since Christians have received so much grace. Sometimes Matthew 5:20 is cited for a proof-text.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(5) Anecdotal Argument:</span> God’s blessing on those who have faithfully tithed demonstrates that this is his method for giving in the current era.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(6) Tithing as the Eleventh Commandment: </span> Since Leviticus 25:1–2 places the context of Leviticus 25–27 on Mt. Sinai, and since tithing is commanded in Leviticus 27:30–33, tithing should be considered as binding as all the Ten Commandments.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">B. Unconvincing Arguments</span></h3>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(7) Argument from Genesis 4:</span> Tithing goes back to Abel (who tithed) and Cain (who did not), based upon the Septuagint (Greek translation of the Old Testament) and Hebrews 11:4.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(8) Historical Argument:</span> Tithing is a well-tested, ancient form of giving that has been validated throughout church history.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(9) Pragmatic Argument: </span>Tithing is easy to understand, it is easy to do, and it is systematic. This is the only reasonable method of giving based upon Scripture.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(10) Argument from the Sabbath:</span> Just as the Sabbath is still binding, so is tithing.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(11) Argument from Malachi 3:</span> Since Malachi 3 declares that withholding tithes is equivalent to robbing God, Christians should tithe. One form of this argument relates the withholding of tithes to the commandment against stealing.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(12) Jerome’s Argument: </span>The clergy are in the line of the Levites; their portion is God. Therefore, the clergy today are due tithes just as the Levites were due tithes in the Old Testament.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(13) Argument from Jesus’ Example:</span> Since Jesus was never accused of failing to tithe, and since the Pharisees ate with him (demonstrating that he was not a law breaker on tithing), he must have tithed. Since Jesus tithed, so should we.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(14) The Caesarian Argument:</span> Matthew 22:21b says to give to God the things that are God’s. These “things” refer to tithes.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">C. Arguments Deserving Consideration </span></h3>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(15) Argument from the Mosaic law:</span> Since Deuteronomy 16:17 commands proportional giving, and Paul is referencing Deuteronomy 16:17 in 1 Corinthians 16:2, tithing, the prescribed proportion, is still binding.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(16) The Argument from Hebrews: </span>Hebrews 7 proves that Christians should tithe. Since tithes were due to Melchizedek, and Jesus is in the line of Melchizedek, tithes are now due to Jesus.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(17) The Argument from Jesus’ Teaching:</span> Matthew 23:23 should be understood as Jesus commanding Christians to tithe. Rather than referring to Matthew 23:23 as a command, some use commend, endorse, approve, or sanction. Furthermore, if Jesus wanted to abrogate the law, this was the perfect time to do that.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(18) Moral Law Argument:</span> Tithing is a part of the moral law (within the view that the Mosaic law has 3 parts: civil, ceremonial, and moral) and therefore continues.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(19) Paul commended tithing conceptually:</span> Though Paul never mentioned tithing explicitly, the concept is present in his epistles (especially 1 Corinthians 9:13; 16:2).</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">(20) The Argument from Natural Law: </span>Since tithing was practiced before the Mosaic law and by almost all nations in the history of the world, it is a part of natural law or is a universal law (typically based upon its ancient practice). </div>
<pre class="_19ik" dir="ltr" style="background-color: #f6f7f9; color: #1d2129; font-size: 17px; margin: 40px auto; padding: 16px; width: 700px;"><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;"><span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Dr. David A. Croteau is a Bible scholar with indepth knowledge in New Testament Greek and had done countless hours of research in the topic of tithing. </span></span></pre>
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<span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">Miscellaneous:</span></div>
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<span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;"> For example, “the excuse argument” says that the reason people argue against the tithe is because they do not want to tithe; the reason they do not want to tithe is because they lack faith that God will provide for them (Charles Stanley); the greed argument says that people argue against tithing because they want to hold on to their money (Duncan and Charles Stanley). Also not included is a hermeneutical argument: if a law is not explicitly repealed, then it is still binding. </span></div>
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Our modern day tithe advocates citing various Bible translations including KJV, using tithes in plural argue that Abraham tithing was definitely more than an one time act, a proof for Abraham's regular ongoing tithing habits.</h2>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">For example W.W. Barndollar in his "Scriptural Tithe" Page 60 states:</span></div>
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“<span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">the writer of the Epistle to the Hebrews declares that Melchizedek ‘received tithes of Abraham’ (Heb. 7:6). The plural number of the word certainly suggests more than one visit by Abraham to Melchizedek for the purpose of the presentation of his tithes to the Lord’s high priest</span>” </h3>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">TitheS in plural: </span> ESV, KJV, HCSB, AKJV, ASV, DRB etc.,</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Tithe or "a" tenth in singular:</span> NIV, NLT, BSB, BLB, NASB etc.,</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Hebrews 7:6 - But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises </span>-KJV</div>
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However, if we look it up in Greek (Textus Receptus Manuscript which is the source text of KJV), </div>
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It is "singular" in Greek!</div>
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Parser Key In Singular!</div>
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δεκατόω (dekatoó) is used in singular.</div>
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Strong's Greek: 1183. δεκατόω (dekatoó) — 2 Occurrences</div>
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Also in Hebrews 7:4 dekatēn (δεκάτην) is used in singular.</div>
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Tithe teachers do not leave any stone unturned to prove their false teachings regarding tithing and they are never tired of finding "loopholes" in Biblical translations.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">“Barndollar shows extraordinary carelessness in his exegesis</span>” - Mark A. Snoeberger, Director of Library Services at Detroit Baptist Theological Seminary in Allen Park MI </blockquote>
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Abraham Could Not Have Tithed As He Wandered A Lot!</div>
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Tithe teachers keep repeating that Christians are supposed to tithe from their "gross" income instead of "net" income. </div>
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For those who do not know the difference between gross and net incomes: </div>
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Gross income is the salary amount you get before your taxes, the total salary including the tax that you owe to the federal, state and local tax collecting agencies. Net income is your "take home" income, that is the total amount minus the tax amount.</div>
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Let us see how various people tithed or promised to tithe or supposed to tithe in Biblical times</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">1) Abraham (Abram's) Tithe:</span></div>
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a) Did Abram' tithe from the "gross" total of the war spoils?</div>
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Hebrews 7:4 declares that Abram tithed from the "best of the spoils". So it was neither from gross nor net.</div>
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ἀκροθινίων (akrothiniōn) - Strong # 205 - Best of the spoils in Koine Greek!</div>
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b) Was it from gross?</div>
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According to Genesis 14:24, the 318 young men who accompanied Abram in his expedition to rescue his nephew Lot, had <span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">ALREADY EATEN</span> during their return journey before Abram gave tithes to Melchizadek. Therefore Abram did not set "tithes" apart first and even allowed his young soldiers to eat from the spoils for war before tithing. Obviously Abram's tithe was not from gross.</div>
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Genesis 14:24 - Save only that which the young men have eaten, and the portion of the men which went with me, Aner, Eshcol, and Mamre; let them take their portion.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">2) Jacob's Tithe:</span></div>
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Genesis 28:20-22 20 And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on, 21 So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God: 22 And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">a)</span> Here Jacob makes a conditional vow that he would tithe if he returns back to Isaac safely, so if Jacob had actually kept his promise, he would have tithed after 20 years after come back to his father Isaac. So during his stay with Laban, Jacob did not tithe nor did he promised to tithe in the first place.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">b) </span>Jacob sent the following to his brother Esau before he could reach Canaan. </div>
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200 female goats </div>
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20 male goats </div>
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200 ewes</div>
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20 rams</div>
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30 Milking Camels & their colts</div>
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40 cows</div>
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10 bulls</div>
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20 female donkeys</div>
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10 male donkeys</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Therefore Jacob sent his presents to Esau BEFORE he could have tithed, hence it was not from gross.</span></div>
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Genesis 28:13 - 18 | 13 So he spent the night there. Then he selected from what he had with him a present for his brother Esau: 14 two hundred female goats and twenty male goats, two hundred ewes and twenty rams, 15 thirty milking camels and their colts, forty cows and ten bulls, twenty female donkeys and ten male donkeys. 16He delivered them into the hand of his servants, every drove by itself, and said to his servants, “Pass on before me, and put a space between droves.” 17 He commanded the one in front, saying, “When my brother Esau meets you and asks you, saying, ‘To whom do you belong, and where are you going, and to whom do these animals in front of you belong?’ 18 then you shall say, ‘These belong to your servant Jacob; it is a present sent to my lord Esau. And behold, he also is behind us.’” </div>
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The above 2 examples were individuals tithing based on their own free will and they were description of tithing events. </div>
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Description Does Not Equal To Prescription</h3>
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Let us see if God had commanded Jews to tithe from gross or net from the prescribed tithes:</div>
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The following commandments in the Torah makes it abundantly clear that Jews were even forbidden to bring the "gross" agricultural tithe!!!! Also the poor were supposed to get their share before tithes were even set apart!</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Leviticus 19:9 </span></div>
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'Now when you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap to the very corners of your field, nor shall you gather the gleanings of your harvest.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Leviticus 19:10</span></div>
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Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the foreigner. I am the LORD your God.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Leviticus 23:22</span></div>
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"'When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Leave them for the poor and for the foreigner residing among you. I am the LORD your God.'"</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Deuteronomy 24:19</span></div>
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When you are harvesting in your field and you overlook a sheaf, do not go back to get it. Leave it for the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow, so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Deuteronomy 24:20</span></div>
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When you beat the olives from your trees, do not go over the branches a second time. Leave what remains for the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Ruth 2:2</span></div>
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And Ruth the Moabite said to Naomi, "Let me go to the fields and pick up the leftover grain behind anyone in whose eyes I find favor." Naomi said to her, "Go ahead, my daughter."</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">When it comes to Animal tithe:</span></div>
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The 10th domestic animal that passed under the rod became the tithe animal. What if a Jewish herdsman had 9 cows - zero cows were tithed. What if a herdsman had 19 goats, only 1 goat was tithed!</div>
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Leviticus 27:32 - 'For every tenth part of herd or flock, whatever passes under the rod, the tenth one shall be holy to the LORD.'</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">No Separation of Church and State In Those Days:</span></div>
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The nation of Israel was not a democracy when it was established. It was originally established as a Theocracy where there was no separation of church and state and the ancient Jewish religion was supposed to be the official state religion. Even it was not God original intention to have Kings for His people because God Himself wanted to be the King of Israel.</div>
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Now a significant portion of tax payer money (in certain first world countries) is being spent in public work projects, helping the poor and for the common good. Therefore Christians who pay taxes faithfully (yes, we are supposed to) are already contributing in helping the poor indirectly. <span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">(Please do not make this political, we also know that the tax payer money is also spent on various ungodly causes, but the point is to highlight that there was no separation of the Church and the State in those day).</span></div>
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In The New Testament:</h3>
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I Corinthians 6:19 - Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?</div>
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It is not 10% that belongs to God, but 100% - ALL of our finances, ALL of our time, ALL of our talents & ALL of our resources belong to God in the New Testament. Any one who thinks that 10% belongs to God and 90% belongs to themselves, has not become a disciple of Jesus yet.</div>
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Luke 14:26 - "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother, and wife and children, and brothers and sisters, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.</div>
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..... "Even his own life".... Hmmm.....</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">2 Timothy 2:6 - The farmer that labors must be first partaker of the fruits.</span></div>
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Christians, don't be fooled by money hungry tithe teachers, when they say that we are supposed to tithe from gross income, it means they want more money from you for their own purposes!</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Ma’aser Beheima (Hebrew: מַעְשַׂר בְּהֵמָה) aka Livestock Tithe aka Animal Tithe aka Cattle Tithe was first introduced in Leviticus 27:32-33 </span></h3>
<pre class="_19ik" dir="ltr" style="background-color: #f6f7f9; color: #1d2129; font-size: 17px; margin: 40px auto; padding: 16px; width: 700px;"><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;"><span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Leviticus 27:32 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the Lord - KJV
Leviticus 27:33 He shall not search whether it be good or bad, neither shall he change it: and if he change it at all, then both it and the change thereof shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed - KJV</span></span></pre>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Amazing Facts About Animal Tithe:</span></div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Redemption Option:</span></div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">None! </span>Contrary to the agricultural tithe redemption, there is no option to redeem animal tithes.</div>
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If you are a herdsman in ancient Israel and your daughter likes a particular cow called <span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">Bessie </span>and if <span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">Bessie</span>, happens to be the 10th animal, it could not be exchanged for another cow called <span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">Bertha</span>. Both <span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">Bessie</span> and <span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">Berth</span> would become tithe animals, no matter how loud your daughter cries :(</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Unknowns About Animal Tithes:</span></div>
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<span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">Recipients of Cattle Tithes: </span> Scholars disagree about who had actually received the animal tithe. Some Bible scholars think that the Levites received them but others think that the Aaronic Priests received it.</div>
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<span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">Mixing different animals: </span>Can a herdsman mix different kinds of animals? What if a herdsman had 6 cows, 4 oxen or 5 goats and 5 sheep or 6 cows and 4 lambs - Not sure how the tithing system worked as the religion of Judaism evolved through out the generations.</div>
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<span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">Firstborn Animals: </span>What if a firstborn animal happened to pass under the rod? Could that be redeemed to participate during the pilgrimage festivals? Or if the firstborn animal (which participated during the 2nd tithe) got exchanged for money and would it be allowed to participate during the first tithe process? Again we don’t know how they handled these kind of nuances in ancient Israel.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Judaism's View On Animal Tithes:</span></div>
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In Judaism, the cattle tithe is a commandment in the Torah requiring the sanctifying a tithe of cattle or flock to God, to be sacrificed as a Korban at the Temple in Jerusalem.
The Jewish Sages ordained that animals should not be tithed in the present era when the Temple is not standing.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Animals during Ma’aser Sheni, the 2nd tithe - Limited to Firstborn Animals:</span></div>
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Deuteronomy 14:23 - "You shall eat in the presence of the LORD your God, at the place where He chooses to establish His name, the tithe of your grain, your new wine, your oil, and the firstborn of your herd and your flock, so that you may learn to fear the LORD your God always.</div>
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Firstborn animals could be exchanged for money if the distance to Jerusalem was too far.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Animals during Ma’aser Ani, the 3rd tithe:</span></div>
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No animals participated in during the 3rd tithe and it was restricted only to agricultural products.</div>
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Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8267115130392158698.post-35234941716298086802016-11-27T00:10:00.000-05:002016-11-27T00:10:06.792-05:00Does Hebrews 7 Teach Christians To Tithe To Jesus Through Their Pastors/Local Churches?<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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First of all, "Tithing" was not the "Primary Subject" of Hebrews 7 and there is no commandment for Christians to tithe to anyone.</div>
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The author (of Hebrew)'s intention is NOT to teach how Christians to tithe but to explain the superiority of Jesus over several Old Testament figures.</div>
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The author of Hebrews is building a case for Lord Jesus and the Chapter-By-Chapter logical progression is listed below.</div>
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Book of Hebrews: What Was The Author's Intention?</div>
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Jesus Surpassing All Other OT Champions Of Faith Who Had Faith But Jesus Is The Author & Finisher Of Faith - Heb 11:1-40; 12:1-2</div>
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The main subject of Hebrews is to prove the Superiority of Jesus and the tithing thing is mentioned to teach the superiority of Melchizadek because logically the inferior is blessed by the superior, and the inferior offers a tithe to the superior, not vice versa (Heb 7:2)</div>
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Thus the priesthood of Melchizedek must be superior to that of Levi and Aaron (7:4-10), descendants of Abraham who lived generations later.</div>
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This does not mean all tithe recipients were superior to the tithe givers, especially when it comes to the 2nd and 3rd tithes where the servants, widows, orphans and strangers were the tithe recipients. </div>
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Hebrews 7 seems to refer to the 1st tithe (<span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">the Levitical tithe aka Ma'aser Rishon</span>).</div>
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Hebrews 7 signifies the spiritual relationship between the tithe giver and the tithe recipient in the context of Priesthood. </div>
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Tithe recipients in the Old Testaments such as Melchizadek and the Levitical Priests performed spiritual functions (<span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">what the members of other 11 tribes could not perform</span>) and they were therefore considered as "superior". For example the Levitical Priests (High Priest) had access to the Holy of Holies, privilege to eat the show bread and Levites were eligible to serve in the tabernacle unlike the members of other tribes.</div>
<pre class="_19ik" dir="ltr" style="background-color: #f6f7f9; color: #1d2129; font-size: 17px; margin: 40px auto; padding: 16px; width: 700px;"><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;"><span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">In the New Testament period, every Christian is a Priest and no pastor is superior to any believer.</span></span></pre>
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Tithe teachers automatically assume that Christians are supposed to "continue" to tithe because Jesus is our High Priest now.</div>
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No High Priest in the Old Testament ever received the actual 10% of anyone's income. Melchizadek received one tenth of the "best of the spoils" and not from the whole spoils (the young men had already eaten from the spoils before Abram could tithe). The Aaronic Priests received tithes from the rest of the Levites (10th of the 10th). So following this pattern, how can a Christian actually tithe to Jesus, obviously not the from the "gross income", often taught by the tithe teachers?</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Did Jesus ask Christians to tithe?</span></div>
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No, not at all. Why didn't the disciples set apart (as a tithe to Jesus) 15.3 fish out of the 153 fish they caught (John 21:11), during a post-resurrection appearance of Jesus? Many early Christians sold 100% of their property and laid the value at the feet of the Apostles.Interestingly Barnabas, a Levite who was eligible to receive the tithes, sold his own possession and laid the money at the feet of the Apostles. Barnabas lived OUTSIDE the promised land and therefore he was able to OWN a property in spite of being a Levite. This incident also proves that under the New Covenant, the Levites no longer received tithes and there are no "spiritual" Levites either! The New Testament actually teaches that Jesus has bought us 100% through His blood and not just 10% of our income.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Romans 12:1 Therefore I urge you, brothers, on account of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God, which is your spiritual service of worship.</span></span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">
<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">1 Corinthians 7:23 You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men.</span></span></pre>
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Therefore if someone thinks that ONLY 10% of our income belongs to God is actually has not submitted himself/herself to the Lordship of Jesus. If failure to give tithes from Agricultural products is robbing God in the Old Testament, then failure to surrender 100% to Jesus is also an act of robbery.Priests in the Bible never tithed to anyone, they always received tithes and tithe teachers who demand one tenth from the believers are actually assaulting the priesthood of the believers.</div>
<pre class="_19ik" dir="ltr" style="background-color: #f6f7f9; color: #1d2129; font-size: 17px; margin: 40px auto; padding: 16px; width: 700px;"><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;"><span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">1 Peter 2:5 - 9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:</span></span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">
<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Revelation 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.</span></span><span class="_2cuy _19ii _2vxa" style="box-sizing: border-box; direction: ltr; display: block; font-family: Menlo, Consolas, Monaco, monospace; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; width: 676px; word-wrap: break-word;">
<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Revelation 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.</span></span></pre>
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Every single tithe that is mentioned in the Bible was given when the giver and the recipient were living <span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">INSIDE</span> the promised land.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">A. Described Tithes:</span></h3>
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Both Melchizadek and Abram were inside the promised land when the firstever recorded tithing event happened.</div>
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Jacob made a conditional vow to tithe in Bethel which is inside the promised land.</div>
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Jacob vowed that he would tithe if God brings, him back to the Isaac (who was living inside the promised land) safely.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">B. Prescribed Tithes:</span></h3>
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Jews were supposed to transport the tithes to the Levitical cities (obviously inside the promised land) in exchange to religious services performed by the Levites.</div>
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The tithing system did not take effect when the Jews lived in Egypt and during their journey in the wilderness. The Levitical Priesthood survived WITHOUT the tithes during the wilderness. This totally contrary to many tithe advocates who think that a local church cannot function without the attendees paying the tithes!</div>
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Please note: The original boundaries of the promised land according to <span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Genesis 15:18 In that day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying: 'Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates;</span> However the “<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">core</span>” of the promised land is west of river Jordan. The tithing system did not take effect until the “manna” stopped falling and the Levitical cities were established. It is also clear from Deuteronomy 6:1-3, 12:1, 10-11 proves that the Jews were not even required to tithe until crossing the river Jordan. It was obvious that the trans-Jordan tribes Gad, Reuben and the half tribe of Manasseh who got their inheritance ahead of the other tribes did not start tithing until the following conditions were fulfilled:</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">After The Destruction Of The 1st Temple:</span></h3>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">During Captivity:</span></div>
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During the Assyrian and Babylonian captivity periods, Jews did not practice tithing because they lived outside the promised land. </div>
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No mention about Ezekiel (receiving), Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach & Abed Nego giving tithes.</div>
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No mention about Esther, Mordechai and the Jews who killed their enemies during Purim tithing.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Post-Exile Period:</span></div>
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After different groups of Jews started arriving at the promised land, post exile leaders such as Ezra and Nehemiah taught them the scriptures and instituted the tithing system again.</div>
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The most misused and abused tithe verses in Malachi 3:6-12, point to the storehouses (storage barns/chambers for tithes) inside the promised land.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">During The Time of Lord Jesus:</span></h3>
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In the New Testament period, Jesus mentioned about the Pharisees tithing while they were still living inside the promised land. (Matthew 23:23 & Luke 11:42)</div>
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In the Luke 18:12 parable also, the self-righteous Pharisee was bragging about his way of tithing when he and the tax collector (a non-tither), when both men went up to the temple to pray (Luke 18:10) INSIDE the promised land!</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Post-Resurrection:</span></h3>
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Hebrews chapter 7 also describes about tithing events inside the promised land.</div>
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Therefore in the Bible no one ever gave or received tithes while living OUTSIDE the promised land.</div>
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In Acts 4:36-37, Barnabas, the Levite was able to "own" a piece of land in Cyprus (<span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">because he happened to live outside the promised land</span>).</div>
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In this particular incident, the usual tithe recipient had become a giver, not 10% of the value but 100% of the value. </div>
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A Levite "owning" a land and paying tithes and offerings to non-Levites (in this case 100%) also proves that the early Christians did not practice tithing and the end of the Levitical Priesthood.</div>
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For when the priesthood changes, a change in the law must come as well. </span></pre>
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Our modern day tithe teachers are only interested about what they can get and totally ignore who received the tithes, the relationship between the land and the tithes and the materials involved in the tithing system.</div>
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Now the big question?</h3>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Are Jews living in the nation of Israel obligated to tithe just because they are living inside the promised land?</span></div>
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No, according to Hebrews 7:12 the Levitical Priesthood has been abolished, God’s presence no longer dwells in the “Holy of Holies”, there is no temple. The Jews who live inside Israel do not tithe.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Are Messianic Jews (Christian Jews) who live inside the nation of Israel obligated to tithe?</span></div>
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No, not at all. There is no Levitical priesthood in Christianity and no “Pastor” is authorized to collect tithes. It was obvious from the Barnabas incident that early Christians did not consider Levites as Christian ministers nor a Christian minister as “spiritual Levite”. No Christian can change Agricultural tithes to money. Even if they happen to be farmers inside Israel they cannot tithe because no tithe recipient in the New Testament.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Are gentile Christians (such as Arab Christians and Greek Orthodox) supposed to tithe if they live inside Israel?</span></div>
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No. Tithing was never ordained for gentiles. Please read Acts 15. If tithing was commanded for gentiles, the people of Nineveh, the Queen of Sheba, the Ethiopian minister who was baptized by Philip, the evangelist would have tithed or asked to tithe!</div>
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Psalms 147:<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">20 </span>He has not dealt thus with any other nation; they do not know his rules.
Praise the Lord! </span></pre>
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Buy back option for the 1st Tithe (Levitical Tithe):</h3>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Leviticus 27:31</span></div>
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If a man decides to redeem any part of this tenth, he must add a fifth to its value. </blockquote>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Let us do some Mathematics here:</span></div>
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Assume that 1 bundle of wheat was $10.00 in monetary value.</div>
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100 bundles = $1000.00</div>
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10 bundles belonged to the Lord and they had to be transported to the Levites.</div>
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Monetary value of 10 bundles 10 x 10 = $100.00</div>
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Redemption option:</div>
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Add 20% to the value (1/5th.)</div>
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Monetary value $100.00 + $20 (one fifth of the tithe value = 120.00 dollars)</div>
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After adding one fifth, which is the monetary value:</div>
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(100+20) / 1000.00 = (120.00 / 1000.00) = .12</div>
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To convert .12 to percentage form, multiply it with 100.</div>
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.12 x 100 = <span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">12 percent.</span></div>
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Therefore if the food tithe had to be redeemed under the law, a Jewish farmer needed to give 12% of the monetary value, hence the act of redeeming the agricultural tithes was not considered as "tithing", as we all know, tithe is 10% and not 12 percent.</div>
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Even within the 1st tithe (Ma'aser Rishon), only the Agricultural portion was redeemable, the livestock tithe portion (Ma'aser Behema), carried a severe penalty (even an attempt to redeem) of losing the substitute animal along with animal that was desired to be redeemed. </div>
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The 10th animal that passed under the rod, could never be redeemed by money.</div>
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Leviticus 27:32</div>
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Every tenth animal from the herd or flock, which passes under the shepherd's rod, will be holy to the LORD.</div>
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Leviticus 27:33</div>
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He is not to inspect whether it is good or bad, and he is not to make a substitution for it. But if he does make a substitution, both the animal and its proposed substitute will be holy; they cannot be redeemed." </div>
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Buy-back Option For All 3 Tithes</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Buy back Option For the 2nd Tithe (Feast Tithe)</span></h3>
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For the 2nd tithe, the tithe was allowed to be converted into its monetary value only if the distance was too long. This law was probably given to encourage the Northern Jewish tribes and those who lived east of River Jordan to participate in 1 of the 3 pilgrimage festivals.</div>
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Deuteronomy 14:24</div>
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“If the distance is so great for you that you are not able to bring the tithe, since the place where the LORD your God chooses to set His name is too far away from you when the LORD your God blesses you, </div>
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Deuteronomy 14:25 </div>
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then you shall exchange it for money, and bind the money in your hand and go to the place which the LORD your God chooses. </div>
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Deuteronomy 14:26 </div>
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“You may spend the money for whatever your heart desires: for oxen, or sheep, or wine, or strong drink, or whatever your heart desires; and there you shall eat in the presence of the LORD your God and rejoice, you and your household.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">Buy back Option For The 3rd Tithe (Poor Tithe):</span></h3>
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Should never be exchanged money nor buy back permitted.</div>
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Deuteronomy 14:28</div>
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At the end of every third year you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in that year, and shall deposit it in your town. </div>
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Deuteronomy 14:29</div>
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“The Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance among you, and the alien, the orphan and the widow who are in your town, shall come and eat and be satisfied, in order that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do.</div>
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Question: Could the ancient Jews exchanged money with money? IMPOSSIBLE!</blockquote>
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The buy back specifications in the Bible also refutes the lies of tithe teachers that the tithes were from Agricultural products in those days because money was not in use and the society was predominantly Agrarian!</div>
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Obviously no one could have exchanged money with money and the Scriptures clearly proves that tithing in the Bible was never from money!</div>
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Our modern day tithe supporters often times use an anecdotal evidence to convince their followers to give monetary tithes. </div>
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Anecdotal evidence is using an exception as an example.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">For example, we often hear testimonies from modern day tithers that they started prospering or miracles started breaking out in their lives, ever since they started giving 10% of their income to their local church.</span></div>
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While these claims may be true, they should never be used to justify monetary tithes today. Many Christians do prosper and do experience miracles after setting aside a portion to the Lord. This is not because of God opening the windows of heaven according to Malachi 3. A number of Christians, when they decide to tie loose ends in their lives, sincerely repent, reconcile with others and also decide to give 10%. God sees their heart and blesses them. However this has nothing to do with God's approval of monetary tithing today nor establishes a theological truth. </div>
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Not all Christians who faithfully set aside 10% to their local church prosper nor experience financial miracles. A vast majority of them live in poverty and in need. Even Pastors (<span class="_4yxp" style="font-style: italic;">including prosperity preachers, with endless positive confessions</span>) who do collect monetary tithes experience financial hardships.</div>
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Unsaved people who donate money to ungodly and evil causes also prosper, their businesses grow exponentially and live longer. Does that mean our Lord approves ungodly activities?</div>
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People from other religions also give huge sums of money to their preachers and religious institutions and testify that they have been experiencing financial prosperity. Does that make other so-called gods can also lead to salvation?</div>
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There are people who smoke, live longer than some non-smokers. Does that make smoking right, healthy and good for longer life?</div>
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If a man jumps from the top floor of a multi-storey building and survives, can that be used to persuade others to do likewise? </div>
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Therefore, Christians, do not be overcome by the emotions when you hear anecdotal testimonies. However, all Christians must set aside a portion to help the poor and needy instead of giving money to greedy preachers.</div>
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<span class="_4yxo" style="font-weight: bold;">From Wikipedia:</span></div>
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Anecdotal evidence is evidence from anecdotes, i.e., evidence collected in a casual or informal manner and relying heavily or entirely on personal testimony. When compared to other types of evidence, anecdotal evidence is generally regarded as limited in value due to a number of potential weaknesses, but may be considered within the scope of scientific method as some anecdotal evidence can be both empirical and verifiable, e.g. in the use of case studies in medicine. Other anecdotal evidence, however, does not qualify as scientific evidence, because its nature prevents it from being investigated by the scientific method.</div>
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Where only one or a few anecdotes are presented, there is a larger chance that they may be unreliable due to cherry-picked or otherwise non-representative samples of typical cases. Similarly, psychologists have found that due to cognitive bias people are more likely to remember notable or unusual examples rather than typical examples. </div>
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Thus, even when accurate, anecdotal evidence is not necessarily representative of a typical experience. Accurate determination of whether an anecdote is "typical" requires statistical evidence. Misuse of anecdotal evidence is an informal fallacy and is sometimes referred to as the "person who" fallacy ("I know a person who..."; "I know of a case where..." etc.) which places undue weight on experiences of close peers which may not be typical. </div>
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<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{"type":1}"><span class="messageBody translationEligibleUserMessage" data-ft="{"type":3}" style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><u><span style="color: red;">Tithe # 1</span></u> - Ma'aser Rishon in Hebrew was a tenth of the crops and the tenth animal that passes through the rod every year. The Levites were the recipients and this tithe could be eaten anywhere in Israel. Sub-tithe: A tenth of this tithe must be given to the Priests. Livestock was not redeemable but the crops were by paying 20% of money in addition to the actual value.</span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> <span style="color: magenta;">Other name(s):</span> Levitical tithe, first tithe</span></span></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{"type":1}"><span class="messageBody translationEligibleUserMessage" data-ft="{"type":3}" style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><span style="color: red;">Supporting scriptures:</span> Leviticus 27:30-33, Numbers 18:25-32 and Hebrews 7:5-11 </span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> </span></span></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{"type":1}"><span class="messageBody translationEligibleUserMessage" data-ft="{"type":3}" style="font-size: small;"></span></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{"type":1}"><span class="messageBody translationEligibleUserMessage" data-ft="{"type":3}" style="font-size: small;"><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> <u><span style="color: red;">Tithe #2</span></u> - Ma'aser Sheni in Hebrew was a tenth of the crops only, not livestock. But Jews were commanded to add the firstborn animals, but not a tenth of the animals. The original owners were the recipients, could be eaten only in Jerusalem. Buy back option not available. This tithe could be converted to money for transportation purposes only but in Jerusalem the same money must be used to buy food and it must be eaten by the owners, their families, relatives and the Levites. This tithe must be paid every year in one of the 3 festivals. No sub-tithe involved.</span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> <span style="color: magenta;">Other name(s):</span> Festival tithe, feast tithe</span></span></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{"type":1}"><span class="messageBody translationEligibleUserMessage" data-ft="{"type":3}" style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><span style="color: red;">Supporting scriptures:</span> Deuteronomy 12:16-21, 14:22-26, 16:16 & Exodus 23:14-17 </span></span></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{"type":1}"><span class="messageBody translationEligibleUserMessage" data-ft="{"type":3}" style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> <a href="http://tithingstudy.wordpress.com/2011/02/26/the-third-tithe/"><u><span style="color: red;">Tithe # 3</span></u></a> - Ma'aser Ani in Hebrew - every 3rd year of the 7 year cycle. widows, orphans, Levites and the poor were the recipients and it should be only eaten within the gates of the city. No sub-tithe involved and no buy-back possible. </span></span><span style="font-size: small;">Also after paying the 3rd tithe the tithers were required to offer a specific declaration and a prayer as prescribed in Deuteronomy 26:13-15. There are no instructions in the Mosaic law to offer any specific prayer after paying the 1st or 2nd tithes.</span><span class="messageBody translationEligibleUserMessage" data-ft="{"type":3}" style="font-size: small;"><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> <span style="color: magenta;">Other name(s):</span> Welfare tithe, charity tithe, poor tithe</span></span></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{"type":1}"><span class="messageBody translationEligibleUserMessage" data-ft="{"type":3}" style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><span style="color: red;">Supporting scriptures:</span> Deuteronomy 14:28,29 & Deuteronomy 26:12 – 15 </span></span></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{"type":1}"><span class="messageBody translationEligibleUserMessage" data-ft="{"type":3}" style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> The break down total of all three tithes: 20% over a 7-year period / 23.3% over a 6 year period are given below:</span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Year 1 = 10% (Tithe #1) + 10% (Tithe #2) = 20%</span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Year 2 = 10% (Tithe #1) + 10% (Tithe #2) = 20%</span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Year 3 = 10% (Tithe #1) + 10% (Tithe #2) + 10% (Tithe #3) = 30%</span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Year 4 = 10% (Tithe #1) + 10% (Tithe #2) = 20%</span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Year 5 = 10% (Tithe #1) + 10% (Tithe #2) = 20%</span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Year 6 = 10% (Tithe #1) + 10% (Tithe #2) + 10% (Tithe #3) = 30%</span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shmita">Year 7</a> = 0% - the seventh year land Sabbath (Exodus 23:10-11, Leviticus 25:20-22 and Deuteronomy 31:10-13) - Shmita (Hebrew: שמיטה, literally "release"), also called the Sabbatical Year, is the seventh year of the seven-year agricultural cycle mandated by the Torah for the Land of Israel.</span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> 140% / 7 = 20% - in 7 years</span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;" /><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> 140% / 6 = 23.3 % - in 6 years</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Wondering why the so-called tithe teachers never bother to mention multiple tithes?!</span></span></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{"type":1}"><span class="messageBody translationEligibleUserMessage" data-ft="{"type":3}" style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Are there proofs about practice of multiple tithes? </span></span></h6>Yes, there are 3 important proofs outside the 66 books of the Bible.<br />
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<div style="color: blue;"><b>a) Famous Jewish historian Flavius Josephus who lived in the first century:</b></div><br />
<b> </b><b>Antiquities of the Jews – Book 4, Chapter 8 and verse 22</b><br />
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“Besides those two tithes, which I have already said you are to pay every year, the one for the Levites, the other for the festivals, you are to bring every third year a third tithe to be distributed to those that want; to women also that are widows, and to children that are orphans.”<br />
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<div style="color: blue;"><b>b) The Apocryphal book of Tobit:</b></div><br />
Tobit the son of Tobiel, son of Ananiel, son of Aduel, son of Gabael, of the descendants of Asiel and the tribe of Naphtali in his own words.<br />
<b><i>Tobit 1:6</i></b> – But I alone went often to Jerusalem for the feasts, as it is ordained for all Israel by an everlasting decree. Taking the first fruits and the tithes of my produce and the first shearings, I would give these to the priests, the sons of Aaron, at the altar.<br />
<b><i>Tobit 1:7</i></b> – Of all my produce I would give a tenth to the sons of Levi who ministered at Jerusalem; a second tenth I would sell, and I would go and spend the proceeds each year at Jerusalem;<br />
<i><b>Tobit 1:8</b></i> – the <u style="color: blue;"><b>third tenth</b></u> I would give to those to whom it was my duty, as Deborah my father’s mother had commanded me, for I was left an orphan by my father.<br />
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<div style="color: blue; font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><b>c) Christian Church Fathers who wrote about multiple tithes: </b></div><div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><br />
</div><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> i) Jerome who included the book of Tobit in the Latin Bible (Vulgate) </span><br />
<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Jerome says one tithe was given to the Levites, out of which they gave a tenth to the priests; a second tithe was applied to festival purposes, and a third was given to the poor (Commentary on Ezekiel 45:1, 565. quoted in McClintock and Strong, 10, 434).</div><div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><br />
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<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">ii) John Chrysostom who was Archbishop of Constantinople (349–407 A.D) and a contemporary of Jerome believed that multiple tithes existed:</div><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> </span><br />
<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Homily 64 on Matthew 19:27 section 4</div><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> </span><br />
<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">And how much did they bestow in alms? One may ask. For this very thing, I am minded to say now, that they who do not give may be roused to give, and they that give may not pride themselves, but may make increase of their gifts. What then did they give? A tenth of all their possessions, and again another tenth, and after this a third, so that they almost gave away the third part, for <b>three-tenths</b> put together make up this. And together with these, first fruits, and first born, and other things besides, as, for instance, the offerings for sins, those for purification, those at feasts, those in the jubilee, those by the canceling of debts, and the dismissals of servants, and the lendings that were clear of usury. But if he who gave the third part of his goods, or rather the half (for those being put together with these are the half), if then he who is giving the half, achieves no great thing, he who does not bestow so much as the tenth, of what shall he be worthy? With reason He said, “There are few that be saved.”</div><br />
<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Jewish View Of Multiple Tithes: </div><div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><br />
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<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">a) The 12 century Jewish Halachic arbitrator Moses ben-Maimon called Maimonides also known as HaRambam</div><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> </span><br />
<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Maimonides: “On the third and sixth years from the sabbatical year, after they have separated the first tithe, they separate from what remains another tithe, and give it to the poor, and it is called the poor’s tithe; and not on those two years is the second tithe, but the poor’s tithe.” — Gill on Deuteronomy 14:28; Maimonides, Hilchot Mattanot Anayim, c. 6, sect. 4. See also Speaker’s Commentary on Deuteronomy 14:28-29, and McClintock and Strong’s Cyclopaedia, vol. 10. p. 433.]</div><div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><br />
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<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">b) Selden and Michaelis also argue in the same direction, saying that a third tithe should be an excessive demand upon the income of a man who had already expended two-tenths of his increase (McClintock and Strongs Cyclopaedia, vol. 10, p. 434).</div><div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><br />
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<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">c) Peake likewise says: “It may be urged that it is not probable that a double tribute should be exacted from the crops.” And again: “Nor is it probable that a tax of nearly one-fifth of the whole produce should be imposed on the farmers.” (Article “Tithe,” in Hastings Dictionary of the Bible, I, p. 780.)</div><br />
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<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">d) Jewish Talmud (Mishna & Gemmarah)</div><br />
<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Tithingstudy Response to Judaism's view on tithing: So did the Jews pay only the welfare tithe (which we call as the 3rd tithe) on the 3rd and 6th years instead of the 1st and/or 2nd tithes?</div><div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><br />
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<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">a) Deuteronomy 26:12 mentions about “the year of tithing” because years 3 and 6 were the most expensive year for the Jews.</div><div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><br />
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<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">b) If the 3rd tithe had replaced the 1st tithe how did the Levites survive for those 2 years because they paid this tithes only at the end of the 3rd and 6th years.</div><div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><br />
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<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">c) If the 3rd tithe had replaced the 2nd tithe did the Jews not celebrate the 3 pilgrimage festivals during the 3rd and 6th years or did they celebrate the 3 pilgrimage festivals without bringing any food to Jerusalem?.</div><div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><br />
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<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">d) The Levites needed to survive during the sabbatical year. Therefore they got tithes twice during years 3 and 6, especially on year 6.</div><div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><br />
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<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">e) There is no verse in the Old Testament which says (as its primary subject) that the 3rd tithe should be replaced by 1st and/or 2nd tithes during the 3rd and 6th years.</div><div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><br />
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<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">f) Christians do not believe in the Jewish concept of the oral law. Post-exile Jewish Rabbis added a lot of man made laws and interpretations into their lives. Therefore the 39 books of the Old testament is enough to justify that there was a 3rd tithe apart from the first two. We need not rely upon the interpretations of HaRambam and Rashi.</div><div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><br />
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<div style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">g) Even though Jewish commentators overwhelmingly agree with Maimonides’ interpretation of the 3rd tithe, Abraham Ibn Ezra, a contemporary of Maimonides who was also a great Jewish commentator recognized that the 3rd tithe was distinct from the other two. </div><br />
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Christian Objections To Multiple Tithes:<br />
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How did 2.2% of Levites receive tithes from all six years from the rest of the Israelites continuously is a good question.<br />
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a) During their journey to the promised land, the tithing system was not implemented yet.<br />
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b) Under the leadership of Joshua - On going wars and they were still settling down.<br />
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c) During the period of Judges - Apostasy, idol worship, wars, ad hoc rulers, invasion by surrounding nations.<br />
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d) Saul-David-Solomon period: United Kingdom of Israel, establishment of Jerusalem, Kings intervention in the affairs of people which was not God's perfect will.<br />
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e) After Solomon: Divided Kingdom, Jeroboam fired Levites from their positions and appointed mean and evil people as priests, YHWH worship was abolished by Kings like Omri and Ahab, True God worship was rare. A large number of Levites/Priests and Jews loyal to YHWH migrated to the southern Kingdom during King Asa's period. Destruction of the Northern Kingdom<br />
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f) Only Southern Kingdom - Godly Kings like Hezekiah and Josiah were able to bring revival to Judah & Benjamin but those effects were destroyed by ungodly Southern Kings like Ahaz, Manasseh and other pre-exile Kings.<br />
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g) Babylonian captivity - no tithing at all.<br />
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h) Return from exile, never became a sovereign nation until 1947.<br />
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In all the above periods mentioned only during the period of Saul, David and Solomon Israelites (all 12 tribes) had the opportunity to practice YHWH's law under a stable political and religious climate. However that was not God's perfect will either in the 1st place because God wanted to be the ONLY King over all the 12 tribes. Also the taxes enforced by Kings added spin to the tithing system. Therefore the ancient Jews never had a perfect opportunity to practice the tithing laws continuously when all 12 tribes were intact. Probably during the time of certain Judges they attempted to do that but we have to bear in mind, Jerusalem was not established as God's chosen place then!<br />
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<a href="http://www.bible.cc/malachi/3-8.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Malachi 3:8</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> - <b>"Will a man rob God? Yet you are robbing Me! But you say, 'How have we robbed You?' In tithes and <span style="color: red;">offerings</span>.</b></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Have you ever heard of a tithe teacher pointing out "offerings" in </span><a href="http://www.bible.cc/malachi/3-8.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Malachi 3:8</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> ? The tithe teachers cherry pick tithes alone and leave the offerings part for their own convenience in order to manipulate God's people.</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.bible.cc/exodus/13-12.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Exodus 13:12</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> First offspring of every womb</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.bible.cc/exodus/13-12.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Exodus 29:14</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Sin offering</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.bible.cc/exodus/29-18.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Exodus 29:18</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Burnt offering</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.blogger.com/Exodus%2029:40"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Exodus 29:40</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Drink offering</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.bible.cc/exodus/29-41.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Exodus 29:41</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Grain offering (by fire)</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.bible.cc/exodus/30-10.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Exodus 30:10</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">, </span><a href="http://www.bible.cc/exodus/30-16.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">16</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Annual atonement</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.bible.cc/leviticus/3-1.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Leviticus 3:1</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Fellowship offering</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.bible.cc/leviticus/5-15.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Leviticus 5:15</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Guilt offering</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.bible.cc/leviticus/7-12.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Leviticus 7:12</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Thanks offering</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.bible.cc/leviticus/7-37.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Leviticus 7:37</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Ordination offering</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.bible.cc/leviticus/19-24.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Leviticus 19:24</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Praise offering for new fruit trees</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.bible.cc/leviticus/22-18.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Leviticus 22:18</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Freewill offering</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.bible.cc/numbers/5-15.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Numbers 5:15</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Grain offering for jealousy</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.bible.cc/numbers/5-15.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Numbers 5:15</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Reminder offering</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.bible.cc/numbers/5-26.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Numbers 5:26</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Memorial offering</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.bible.cc/numbers/19-17.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Numbers 19:17</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Purification offering</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.bible.cc/numbers/28-14.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Numbers 28:14</span></a><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"> Monthly burnt offering</span> <br />
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<span style="font-family: Verdana;">If our modern day tithe teachers are intellectually honest, shouldn't they also emphasize about the above various offerings while teaching about tithes from Malachi 3 ? </span> <br />
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<span style="font-family: Verdana;">If we say that the tithes were only for Old Testament, then they would say that all scriptures are profitable according to <a href="http://bible.cc/2_timothy/3-16.htm">2 Timothy 3:16</a>!</span> <br />
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<span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;"><a href="http://bible.cc/2_timothy/3-16.htm">2 Timothy 3:16</a></span> <br />
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<span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;</span> <br />
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<span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Why don't the tithe teachers consider the various offerings mentioned in the Old Testament as useful scriptures in order to be consistent?</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Wake up Christians!</span><br />
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<a href="http://www.wickedshepherds.com/"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">http://www.wickedshepherds.com</span></a><br />
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<span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">Links:</span><br />
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<a href="http://www3.telus.net/public/kstam/en/tabernacle/details/offerings.htm"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">http://www3.telus.net/public/kstam/en/tabernacle/details/offerings.htm</span></a><br />
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<a href="http://bible-studies.cephasministry.com/offerings.html"><span style="font-family: Verdana,sans-serif;">http://bible-studies.cephasministry.com/offerings.html</span></a><br />
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The sentence “the local Church is the New Testament storehouse” has been repeated over and over again by multitude of Pastors all over the world.<br />
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Okay, for heck sake let us make the following assumptions:<br />
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1. The New Testament local Church is indeed the storehouse and Christians must bring the whole tithe to the local Church.<br />
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2. Money was a tithable item in the Old Testament.<br />
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3. Jews actually tithed ONLY 10% and not 23.3% in the span of 6 years.<br />
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4. The early Church practiced tithing and the early Church fathers taught tithing.<br />
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Let us see how the early Church functioned:<br />
Ephesians 4:11 – And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers.<br />
Ephesians 4:12 – for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ;<br />
Ephesians 4:13 – until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the <br />
fullness of Christ.<br />
1 Corinthians 12:28 – And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues.<br />
Ephesians 4:11 – 13 clearly states that there are supposed to be 5 fold ministries in order equip the saints.<br />
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According to 1 Corinthians 12:28 in the Church 1st apostles, 2nd prophets, 3rd teachers and the Holy Spirit skips evangelists and pastors.<br />
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Therefore would it not be logical to conclude that apostles collected the money and distributed to the rest of the ministers.<br />
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Even the following verses do not mention about pastors and evangelists.<br />
1 Corinthians 12:29 All are not apostles, are they? All are not prophets, are they? All are not teachers, are they? All are not workers of miracles, are they?<br />
1 Corinthians 12:30 All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they?<br />
What we see around us are two man-made systems of church government:<br />
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(a) The pyramid system a.k.a . hierarchical pattern. This is a centrally-controlled system headed by a General Superintendent like what we see in the Assemblies of God, Church <br />
of God and other similar Pentecostal denominations. Senior pastors in these kind of pyramidal systems consider themselves matured and treat the immatured junior pastors badly.<br />
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(b) The independent system. In this system, each church is totally independent, called non-denominational and answerable to no one. One Charismatic religious leader builds an empire collecting all tithes and offerings. He has the ultimate control over all decision making processes. Or a Senior Pastor with many associate pastors under him running a huge religious enterprise. Many Churches that practice the Word-of-Faith theology belong to this category.<br />
Neither of the 2 models conform to the New Testament standards but call themselves as New Testament storehouses.<br />
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The pastoral calling is a gift given to the church and not the title of the leader of a church. The leaders of the New Testament church were called elders – not pastors – and there was always more than one elder in every church. There New Testament leadership was always in plural.<br />
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Now those who think that New Testament Christians need to tithe to their local Church need to answer the following questions:<br />
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1. Can the pro-tithers show one Church or denomination that has all 5 fold ministries in it? All we see is a single pastor controlled religious enterprise.<br />
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2. How can a single pastor attempt to equip the saints without the help of apostles, prophets, teachers and evangelists contrary to Ephesians 4:11-13?<br />
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2. If a Pastor gets the whole 10% what about the rest of the 4 ministerial offices?<br />
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3. If the early Church had practiced tithing how did they “divide” the tithes amongst all 5 fold ministers?<br />
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4. How did the early Church support miracle workers, ministers who operated in the gifts of healings, helpers, administrators and interpreters of tongues?<br />
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4. Since 1 Cor. 12:28 says “first apostles”, did Apostles collect 10% and distributed to other type of ministers. Apostles appointed PastorS (actually elderS). So is it safe to <br />
conclude that ONLY Apostles got the tithes and gave a small percentage to Pastors and other ministers?<br />
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5. 1 Cor. 12:28 also says “second prophets, third teachers” and it does not even mention Pastors and think about how Pastors could have collected tithes.<br />
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6. Also in the early Church pastorS were in plural and no where the Apostles appointed a single pastor to shepherd a Church. So how can it be right for a single pastor to collect the whole tithe?<br />
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7. All of us may not agree that the offices of Apostles and Prophets exist today but most of us agree that the other 3 offices do. So should the “teachers” get the tithe first and distribute it to the evangelists and pastors ?<br />
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8. Also according to Acts 13:1 same people were holding 2 ministerial offices. In the Church of Anitoch there were 5 individuals holding dual offices.<br />
Acts 13:1 Now there were at Antioch, in the church that was there, prophets and teachers: Barnabas, and Simeon who was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen who had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.<br />
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Did they get more money for operating in 2 ministerial offices simultaneously?<br />
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Later in Acts 13:2, Paul and Barnabas were promoted to hold the office of the apostles!<br />
Acts 13:2 While they were ministering to the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.”<br />
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No where in the New Testament we can find any pastor collecting money neither in the form of tithes nor in the form of offerings.<br />
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Malachi 3:10 says “Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in My house, and test Me now in this,” says the LORD of hosts, “if I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you a blessing until it overflows.<br />
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In our modern day Churches there is not food for Apostles, prophets, teachers, evangelists, helpers, administrators, faith healers, interpreters of tongues and miracle workers do not get their share. They are at the mercy of the senior pastors. Many fellow ministers are asked to “live by faith” by the senior pastors.<br />
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Therefore even if we assume that the New Testament Church is the modern day storehouse, it does not function like a storehouse.<br />
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In the New Testament, the Lord’s workers were supported financially in two ways: Some were supported by the gifts of believers, while others like Paul supported themselves.<br />
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What a glaring discrepancy from what we see today!<br />
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Christians wake up! </div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8267115130392158698.post-64695279816196410672011-02-26T14:50:00.007-05:002011-09-30T22:58:32.575-04:00The Third Tithe!<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"><span style="color: purple;"> The Third Tithe!<br />
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Our modern day tithe teachers are leaving an indelible impression in the minds of their followers that the ancient Jews tithed only 10% of their gross income and demand that Christians must also tithe 10% of their gross income to their local Churches.<br />
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However, to make such an assumption is totally false and contrary to the scriptures.<br />
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There were multiple tithes prescribed in the Mosaic law contrary to popular opinion. Let us focus on the 3rd tithe in this article.<br />
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Definition of the 3rd tithe:<br />
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After the Sabbatical year, on every third and sixth year the farm owning Israelites must keep the increase of their produce within their gates and distribute it to the Levites, the widows, the poor and the strangers.<br />
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The 3rd tithe is also known as:<br />
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The Charity tithe / Tithe for the poor / Welfare tithe<br />
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Some of the distinct things about the 3rd tithe were, little to no traveling and transportation involved and this is the only tithe for which God promises to bless the works of the giver. No promises were given for the givers of the 1st and 2nd tithes in the Mosaic law. Also after paying the 3rd tithe the tithers were required to offer a specific declaration and a prayer as prescribed in Deuteronomy 26:13-15. There are no instructions in the Mosaic law to offer any specific prayer after paying the 1st or 2nd tithes.<br />
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Proof from the law of Moses (Scriptures about the 3rd tithe):<br />
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Deuteronomy 14:28<br />
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"At the end of every third year you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in that year, and shall deposit it in your town."<br />
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Deuteronomy 14:29<br />
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"The Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance among you, and the alien, the orphan and the widow who are in your town, shall come and eat and be satisfied, in order that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do."<br />
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Deuteronomy 26:12 - 15<br />
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"When you have finished paying all the tithe of your increase in the third year, the year of tithing, then you shall give it to the Levite, to the stranger, to the orphan and to the widow, that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied."<br />
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Questions and Answers about the third tithe:<br />
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1. What was tithable as the third tithe?<br />
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* One tenth of the increase in the produce. Money (Shekel) is not mentioned and the cattle are not mentioned either.<br />
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2. Who were the recipients?<br />
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* The Levites, the widows, the poor and the strangers (aliens) were the recipients and the final owners of this tithe.<br />
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3. Where should they bring the tithes?<br />
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* Within their gates and within the boundaries of their town.<br />
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4. What was the purpose?<br />
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* In order that the Lord God of Israel may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do.<br />
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5. How often it should be paid?<br />
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* Every third year, that was on the 3rd and 6th year from the Sabbatical year.<br />
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6. Was it redeemable?<br />
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* No, it could not be redeemed. It must be given out and no redemption option was specified in the Mosiac law. The third tithe must not be converted into money.<br />
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7. When it was paid?<br />
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* At the END of the 3rd year.<br />
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8. Were livestock involved?<br />
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* No, animals were not part of the 3rd tithe.<br />
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9. What was the difference between the third tithe and the other two tithes?<br />
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<blockquote><span style="color: purple;">A 65-year-old wheelchair-bound woman with congestive heart failure was kicked out of her church because she was not paying her tithe, NBC 4 reported. Loretta Davis told NBC 4's Mike Bowersock she was shocked when she received a letter saying she was no longer considered a member of her church, The Living Word Tabernacle. Davis made an agreement with the church that she would give 10 percent of her income. Then she became ill and stopped making payments, so the church revoked her membership. "Since Jan. 5, I've been in the hospital 15 times," Davis said. "I've suffered with cellulites since I've had the open heart (surgery)." Davis is no longer paying the church $60 per month from her $592 per month Social Security check, Bowersock reported. "I have my tithes that I was supposed to pay, but I have not paid them since this has went on," Davis said. "In the time of (Davis') need, they should be caring, supporting, asking what she needs -- help her if she needed help," said Teresa Meeks, who is Davis' daughter. "I was so hurt on what they did to her." The church moved out of its building in Waverly earlier this year and Davis' dismissal has become the talk of the town, Bowersock reported. In a letter to the editor of the local paper, the former pastor said it is true that Davis lost her membership for not paying her tithes. In the same letter, he said Davis was not kicked out of the church for not paying her tithes. The Rev. Paul McClurg, who started the church, said Davis is still welcome to attend church but is not allowed to be a member. The issue upset Davis' 83-year-old mother so much that she quit the church. The members have been holding services in a Lion's Club hall while waiting to build a new church. There are at least two former members who will not be attending with them."</span></blockquote><span style="color: purple;"><br />
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Only for the 3rd tithe a return blessing is promised in the Mosaic law unlike the first 2 tithes. Why this principle is ignored by the prosperity preachers today? Testing God in Malachi 3:10 was specific to the Jews who returned from the Babylonian captivity and not to the Christian Church!<br />
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Tithe teachers gleefully quote Jerome and Chrysostom as tithe proponents in the early Christianity but hide the fact those 2 men also believed in multiple tithes.<br />
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Christians, please understand, how tithing was practiced in the Old Testament period and be on guard against the mammon loving wolves.<br />
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How many tithes? Here is a brief description about all 3 tithes:<br />
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<strong>Tithe # 1</strong> – Ma’aser Rishon was a tenth of the crops and the tenth animal that passes through the rod every year. The Levites were the receipients and this tithe could be eaten anywhere in Israel. Sub-tithe: A tenth of this tithe must be given to the Priests. Livestock was not redeemable but the crops were by paying 20% of money in addition to the actual value.<br />
Other name(s): Levitical tithe, first tithe.<br />
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<strong>Tithe #2</strong> – Ma’aser Sheni was a tenth of the crops only, not livestock. But Jews were commanded to add the firstborn animals, but not a tenth of the animals. The original owners are the receipients, could be eaten only in Jerusalem. Buy back option not available. This tithe could be converted to money for transportation purposes only but in Jerusalem the same money must be used to buy food and it must be eaten by the owners, their families, relatives and the Levites. This tithe must be paid every year in one of the 3 festivals. No sub-tithe involved.<br />
Other name(s): Festival tithe, feast tithe<br />
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<strong>Tithe # 3</strong> – Ma’aser Ani every 3rd year of the 7 year cycle. Windows, orphans, Levites and the poor were the receipients and it should be only eaten within the gates of the city. No sub-tithe involved.<br />
Other name(s): Welfare tithe, charity tithe, poor tithe.<br />
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The total of all three tithes = 20% over a 7-year period / 23.3% over a 6 year period as follows:<br />
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Year 1 = 10% (Tithe #1) + 10% (Tithe #2) = 20%<br />
Year 2 = 10% (Tithe #1) + 10% (Tithe #2) = 20%<br />
Year 3 = 10% (Tithe #1) + 10% (Tithe #2) + 10% (Tithe #3) = 30%<br />
Year 4 = 10% (Tithe #1) + 10% (Tithe #2) = 20%<br />
Year 5 = 10% (Tithe #1) + 10% (Tithe #2) = 20%<br />
Year 6 = 10% (Tithe #1) + 10% (Tithe #2) + 10% (Tithe #3) = 30%<br />
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Year 7 = 0% – the seventh year land Sabbath <br />
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140% / 7 = 20% – in 7 years<br />
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140% / 6 = 23.3 % – in 6 years</span><br />
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* First tithe should be brought to the nearest Levite cities and the second tithe should be brought to Jerusalem.<br />
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* The purpose of the first tithe was to compensate the Levites for their loss of inheritance amongst the rest of the 11 tribes.<br />
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The purpose of the second tithe was to teach the fear of the Lord to the Jews.<br />
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* Levites become the final owners of the first tithe, the tithers themselves become the owners of the second tithes.<br />
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* Only the members of the tribe of Levi were the recipients of the first tithe. The tithers themselves consumed the second tithe with their household.<br />
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* First tithes could be eaten anywhere by the Levites and the 2nd tithes could be eaten only in Jerusalem.<br />
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* First tithes must be paid yearly and the second tithes must also be paid yearly but only during festival times which included the first born animal.<br />
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* For the first tithe, if the tither wants to redeem the tithes from the land they must add 20% of the monetary value as a fine and give it to the Levites. However the livestock were not redeemable.<br />
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For the second tithe, no redemption option was specified. The second tithes might be converted into money however in Jerusalem they must use the same money to buy oxen, or sheep, or wine, or strong drink, or whatever their heart desired. No penalty was applicable if the 2nd tithe was converted into money.<br />
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* Levites got the Livestock (tenth animal that passed under the rod) and the first born male animals were part of feasts and participated the 2nd tithes.<br />
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* All other tribes traveled an average distance depending upon the location of the Levitical towns to deliver the first tithes. No river crossing involved.<br />
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For the 2nd tithe, the Northern tribes like Asher, Naphtali, Zebulen and Issachar traveled the longest distance to Jerusalem. The trans-Jordan tribes had to cross the Jordan river and obviously boats were involved in transportation.<br />
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* No promise (to bless the giver) associated with the 1st and 2nd tithes in the Law. The promise in Malachi 3 was specific to those who have returned from the exile when they were rediscovering their culture, religion and language.<br />
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* Scriptures for 1st tithe: Leviticus 27:30 - 33 & Scriptures for the 2nd tithe: Deuteronomy 12:5 - 7 & Deuteronomy 14:22 - 26<br />
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10. Is there proof outside the scriptures?<br />
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Yes, there are 2 important proofs outside the 66 books of the Bible.<br />
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a) Famous Jewish historian Flavius Josephus who lived in the first century:<br />
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Antiquities of the Jews - Book 4, Chapter 8 and verse 22<br />
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"Besides those two tithes, which I have already said you are to pay every year, the one for the Levites, the other for the festivals, you are to bring every third year a third tithe to be distributed to those that want; to women also that are widows, and to children that are orphans."<br />
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b) The Apocryphal book of Tobit:<br />
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Tobit the son of Tobiel, son of Ananiel, son of Aduel, son of Gabael, of the descendants of Asiel and the tribe of Naphtali in his own words.<br />
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Tobit 1:6 - But I alone went often to Jerusalem for the feasts, as it is ordained for all Israel by an everlasting decree.<br />
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Taking the first fruits and the tithes of my produce and the first shearings, I would give these to the priests, the sons of Aaron, at the altar.<br />
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Tobit 1:7 - Of all my produce I would give a tenth to the sons of Levi who ministered at Jerusalem; a second tenth I would sell, and I would go and spend the proceeds each year at Jerusalem;<br />
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Tobit 1:8 - the third tenth I would give to those to whom it was my duty, as Deborah my father's mother had commanded me, for I was left an orphan by my father.<br />
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11. Are there any objections about the 3rd tithe?<br />
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* Yes, there are.<br />
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a) The 12 century Jewish Halachic arbitrator Moses ben-Maimon called Maimonides also known as HaRambam<br />
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Maimonides: "On the third and sixth years from the sabbatical year, after they have separated the first tithe, they separate from what remains another tithe, and give it to the poor, and it is called the poor's tithe; and not on those two years is the second tithe, but the poor's tithe." -- Gill on Deuteronomy 14:28; Maimonides, Hilchot Mattanot Anayim, c. 6, sect. 4. See also Speaker's Commentary on Deuteronomy 14:28-29, and McClintock and Strong's Cyclopaedia, vol. 10. p. 433.]<br />
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b) Selden and Michaelis also argue in the same direction, saying that a third tithe should be an excessive demand upon the income of a man who had already expended two-tenths of his increase (McClintock and Strongs Cyclopaedia, vol. 10, p. 434).<br />
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c) Peake likewise says: "It may be urged that it is not probable that a double tribute should be exacted from the crops." And again: "Nor is it probable that a tax of nearly one-fifth of the whole produce should be imposed on the farmers." (Article "Tithe," in Hastings Dictionary of the Bible, I, p. 780.)<br />
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d) Jewish Talmud (Mishna & Gemmarah)<br />
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12. So did the Jews pay only the welfare tithe (which we call as the 3rd tithe) on the 3rd and 6th years instead of the 1st and/or 2nd tithes?<br />
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Here are the answers to the objections:<br />
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a) Deuteronomy 26:12 mentions about "the year of tithing" because years 3 and 6 were the most expensive year for the Jews.<br />
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b) If the 3rd tithe had replaced the 1st tithe how did the Levites survive for those 2 years because they paid this tithes only at the end of the 3rd and 6th years<br />
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c) If the 3rd tithe had replaced the 2nd tithe did the Jews not celebrate the 3 pilgrimage festivals during the 3rd and 6th years or did they celebrate the 3 pilgrimage festivals without bringing any food to Jerusalem?<br />
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d) The Levites needed to survive during the sabbatical year. Therefore they got tithes twice during years 3 and 6, especially on year 6.<br />
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e) There is no verse in the Old Testament which says (as its primary subject) that the 3rd tithe should be replaced by 1st and/or 2nd tithes during the 3rd and 6th years.<br />
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f) Christians do not believe in the Jewish concept of the oral law. Post-exile Jewish Rabbis added a lot of man made laws and interpretations into their lives. Therefore the 39 books of the Old testament is enough to justify that there was a 3rd tithe apart from the first two. We need not rely upon the interpretations of HaRambam and Rashi.<br />
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g) Even though Jewish commentators overwhelmingly agree with Maimonides' interpretation of the 3rd tithe, Abraham Ibn Ezra, a contemporary of Maimonides who was also a great Jewish commentator recognized that the 3rd tithe was distinct from the other two. <br />
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13. Did the Christian Church Fathers write about the 3rd tithe?<br />
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* Yes, a few of them wrote about the 3rd tithe.<br />
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a) Jerome who included the book of Tobit in the Latin Bible (Vulgate)<br />
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Jerome says one tithe was given to the Levites, out of which they gave a tenth to the priests; a second tithe was applied to festival purposes, and a third was given to the poor (Commentary on Ezekiel 45:1, 565. quoted in McClintock and Strong, 10, 434).<br />
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b) John Chrysostom who was Archbishop of Constantinople (349–407 A.D) and a contemporary of Jerome believed that multiple tithes existed:<br />
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Homily 64 on Matthew 19:27 section 4<br />
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And how much did they bestow in alms? One may ask. For this very thing, I am minded to say now, that they who do not give may be roused to give, and they that give may not pride themselves, but may make increase of their gifts. What then did they give? A tenth of all their possessions, and again another tenth, and after this a third, so that they almost gave away the third part, for <b>three-tenths put together make up this</b>. And together with these, first fruits, and first born, and other things besides, as, for instance, the offerings for sins, those for purification, those at feasts, those in the jubilee, those by the canceling of debts, and the dismissals of servants, and the lendings that were clear of usury. But if he who gave the third part of his goods, or rather the half (for those being put together with these are the half), if then he who is giving the half, achieves no great thing, he who does not bestow so much as the tenth, of what shall he be worthy? With reason He said, "There are few that be saved."<br />
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Hebrew words used regarding the 3rd tithe:<br />
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al-maw-naw' - Widow<br />
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ger - alien, stranger, immigrants, sojourner<br />
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yaw-thome' - orphan<br />
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teb-oo-aw' - Produce, revenue, gain<br />
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NASB Word Usage<br />
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crop (4), crops (6), gain (1), harvest (4), income (4), increase (3), produce (10), product (3), revenue (2), yield (5), yield may increase (1).<br />
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We have been taught by our modern day word of faith preachers that tithing is a "law of prosperity" and they demand tithes from widows, orphans and aliens contrary to what the Israelites practiced. If widows, poor, aliens and orphans were the recipients of the tithe, then how would their "law of prosperity" become applicable to windows, orphans, poor and aliens? In fact many mammon loving preaches live a luxurious life using tithes from widows who live from their social security/pension. They misuse Malachi 3:10 where it says "Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse..." but totally ignore about this important triennial tithe which actually promises " in order that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do" - Deuteronomy 14:29b.<br />
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In many Churches tithing is a requirement for membership. Why don't they deny membership to those who refuse to tithe to the widows, orphans, poor and strangers? How can they deny membership to widows and poor who cannot afford to tithe especially if they have huge medical bills to pay as in the case of Loretta Davis. Please read how Loretta was kicked out of the Church for not paying tithes.<br />
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</div>Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8267115130392158698.post-87257416134015431322010-12-19T15:03:00.000-05:002010-12-19T15:03:46.806-05:00Church Father Justin Martyr On Tithing<b>Who was Justin Martyr?</b><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Martyr">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Martyr</a><br />
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<b>Did Justin Martyr record incidents of early Christians tithing?</b><br />
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Justin Martyr – First Apology<br />
<a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf01.viii.ii.lxvii.html">http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf01.viii.ii.lxvii.html</a><br />
<ul><strong>Chapter LXVII.—Weekly worship of the Christians.</strong></ul>And we afterwards continually remind each other of these things. And the wealthy among us help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we bless the Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost. And on the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things. Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability, and the people assent, saying Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given, and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons. And they who are well to do, and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succors the orphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need.<br />
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In chapter 67 of his book first apology Justin Martyr explains how the early Church collected money.<br />
…And the wealthy among us help the needy<br />
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- Tithe collection was not mentioned and obviously no one gave “seed offering”.<br />
…and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succor the orphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need.<br />
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<div style="color: blue;"><b>- No mention about the collection of “His” tithes!!! </b></div><div style="color: blue;"><br />
</div>There is no proof of early Christians following the “eternal moral principle” of tithing in Justin Martyr’s writings.<br />
Church father Justin Martyr never advocated tithing and the early Christian Church never practiced tithing as we see in today’s Churches.<br />
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<strong>Justin Martyr – Second Apology</strong><br />
There is no mention about Christians tithing in Justin’s 2nd apology either!<br />
<strong>Dialogue with Trypho, the Jew – Justin Martyr</strong><br />
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<a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf01.viii.iv.xi.html">http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf01.viii.iv.xi.html</a><br />
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Chapter XI – The law abrogated; the New Testament promised and given by God<br />
<blockquote>But we do not trust through Moses or through the law; for then we would do the same as yourselves. </blockquote><blockquote> Now, law placed against law has abrogated that which is before it, and a covenant which comes after in like manner has put an end to the previous one; and an eternal and final law—namely, Christ —has been given to us, and the covenant is trustworthy, after which there shall be no law, no commandment, no ordinance.</blockquote>These were the statements made by Justin Martyr to Trypho, the Jew which obviously indicate that Justin did not follow the law of Moses!Unknownnoreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8267115130392158698.post-24655112999507362272010-12-12T12:44:00.001-05:002011-10-16T23:53:41.176-04:00Tithing Study Tabular Columns<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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<b><u>Levitical Tithes Versus Festival Tithes</u></b><br />
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<tr> <th>~~~~~~~~~~</th> <th>Levitical Tithe</th> <th>Festival Tithe</th> </tr>
<tr> <td>Scripture Verses</td> <td>Leviticus 27, Numbers 18:25-32 and Hebrews 7:5-11</td> <td>Deuteronomy 12:16-21, 14:22-26, Exodus 23:14-17 and<br />
Deuteronomy 16:16</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Where to Eat</td> <td>Eaten anywhere in the promised land (only Levites could eat)<br />
<br /></td> <td>Only Eaten In Jerusalem</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Who Received</td> <td>Tribe of Levi excluding Aaronic Priests</td> <td>All tribes of Israel</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Final Ownership</td> <td>90% owned by the Tribe Of Levi and 10% went to Aaronic Priests</td> <td>Original Owners</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Why</td> <td>Substitute for Land inheritance</td> <td>Teach the fear of The Lord</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Option to convert to money</td> <td>Add 20% to the monetary value to redeem the crops and bring it to Levites. Animals cannot be redeems.</td> <td>No redemption option specified</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Further Action</td> <td>Levites Tithed 10th of the Tithe to Aaronic Priests</td> <td>No further action – all consumed during festivals</td> </tr>
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<b><u>Levirate Marriage Law Versus Tithing Law</u></b><br />
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<tr> <th>~~~~~~~~~~</th> <th>Levirate Marriage Law – Marrying deceased husband’s male relative</th> <th>Tithing Law</th> </tr>
<tr> <td>Definition</td> <td>Marrying deceased husband’s nearest male relative if there are no surviving male heirs</td> <td>ALWAYS food, agricultural products, seed of the land, produce, oil, wine and livestock INSIDE the promised land but<br />
NEVER referred to earned income or money</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>How it started?</td> <td>Unknown and no specific reason or commandment given</td> <td>Unknown and specific reason or commandment</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Purpose</td> <td>To continue and preserve the male line of the deceased husband</td> <td>Levite tithe is to offset the loss of land inheritance for the tribe of Levi & Festival tithe is to teach the fear of the Lord </td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Before the law of Moses</td> <td>Practiced</td> <td>Practiced</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Compulsory or Optional?</td> <td>Mandatory in many parts of the ancient Middle East</td> <td>Not compulsory but done as a free will offering or part of a previous vow</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Incorporation into the Law of Moses</td> <td>Modified and adapted into the Mosaic law, also affected inter-tribe marriages</td> <td>Modified and codified into the Mosaic law, different tithes introduced</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>How did it start?</td> <td>Unknown and no specific reason or commandment given</td> <td>Unknown and specific reason or commandment</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Frequency</td> <td>Does not matter, could happen in any year</td> <td>6 years of continuous tithing and on the 7th year no tithing</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Mentioned in the Talmud</td> <td>Discussed at least in one tractate</td> <td>Discussed at least in one tractate</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Question posed to Jesus?</td> <td>Sadducees posed a specific question to Jesus</td> <td>No one asked Jesus about tithing</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>What did Jesus say?</td> <td>Never explicitly abrogated and did not command the Jews to discontinue the practice</td> <td>Never explicitly abrogated but asked the Jews under the law to tithe from garden herbs</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Elsewhere in the New Testament</td> <td>Mentioned only by Jesus and the Sadducees, not mentioned elsewhere</td> <td>Mentioned by Jesus and mentioned in the book of Hebrews</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Primary Subject of in the mentioned New Testament verse?</td> <td>No, resurrection was the primary subject when the Sadducees questioned Jesus</td> <td>No, pride vs. humility (in the parable – Luke 18:9-14), emphasis on justice and mercy (Matt. 23:23/Luke 11:42) and<br />
comparison of Levitical and Melchizadek’s priesthood (Hebrews<br />
7:1-10).</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Apostle Paul’s position</td> <td>Paul never made a statement about the custom of Levirate<br />
law</td> <td>Paul never mentioned about tithing</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Commanded to New Testament Christians?</td> <td>No, A Christian woman need not marry her deceased husband's<br />
nearest male relative if there is no surviving son</td> <td>No, A Christian is not commanded to tithe to the local Church<br />
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<tr> <td>How today’s Christian church (various denominations)<br />
follow both?</td> <td>No Pastor asks a Christian widow to remarry or ask her to<br />
marry her husband’s nearest male relatives if she does not <br />
have a son even though it is practiced before the law of<br />
Moses</td> <td>Pastors exhort Christians to give 10% of their gross income (money earned)<br />
stating that tithing was practiced even before the law of Moses!</td> </tr>
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<b><u>Comparison Between Abraham’s tithe, Jacob’s tithe and tithing under the law of Moses</u></b><br />
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<tr> <th>Abraham’s Tithe</th> <th>Jacob’s Tithe</th> <th>Under the law of Moses</th> </tr>
<tr> <td>Only Abraham tithed and not his servants</td> <td>Only Jacob (promised to) tithe and not his sons and<br />
servants</td> <td>Only Land owners growing crops and cattle owners tithed to Levites and Levites tithed to the priests. Poor and workers in the farms did not tithe</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Only once paid</td> <td>Promised to pay only once</td> <td>Levitical and Festival tithes were yearly paid for 6 continuous years and Charity tithes were paid once in 3 years</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Not from possessions but consisted of war spoils only</td> <td>Promised to pay from whatever God would give him</td> <td>Yearly paid Levitical and Festival tithes and Charity tithes were paid once 3 years</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Abraham wanted to pay tributes to God and return the rest to the King of Sodom after rescuing his nephew Lot</td> <td>Hebrew language says Jacob had fear and doubts about God<br />
and to manipulate God he made a conditional vow to tithe!</td> <td>It was mandatory</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Voluntary (or probably a custom in that area at that time) and tithed to Melchizadek and returned 90% back<br />
to the King of Sodom!</td> <td>Voluntary but no record of Jacob paying tithes</td> <td>Compulsory and followed at least levitical, festival and charity tithing systems.<br />
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<tr> <td>Not commanded to tithe</td> <td>Not commanded to tithe</td> <td>Commanded to tithe</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Gave the rest of the 90% to the King of Sodom</td> <td>Did not give the rest to of the 90% to anyone</td> <td>Levites tithed 10% to the Aaronic Priests and kept the rest of the agricultural products and livestock to<br />
themselves.</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Vow (either before or after)</td> <td>Previous Conditional vow</td> <td>Not subject to vow</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Only one variety – war spoils</td> <td>Only one type</td> <td>Multiple – at least 3 different tithes specified in the<br />
law</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Melchizedek was the recipient</td> <td>No record about the recipient</td> <td>Levite got the 1st tithe and in turn tithed to the Priests, poor received the tithes and consumed by the owners during festivals</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Total – 10%</td> <td>Total – Uncertain</td> <td>Total – 23.3% (10% Levitical, 10% Festival and 3.33 % Charity – 6 year average 23.3% & if Sabbatical year included it averages about 20%)</td> </tr>
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<b><u>Old Testament Levites, Early Church Pastors And Modern Day Pastors</u></b><br />
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<tr> <th>Old Testament Levites </th> <th>Early Church Pastors </th> <th>Modern day Pastors </th> </tr>
<tr> <td>Physical Descendents of Jacob’s 3rd Son Levi</td> <td>One of the five fold minsters</td> <td>Anyone who runs a Church</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Got their authority to minister by the commandments given<br />
in the law of Moses </td> <td>Appointed by Apostles</td> <td>Seminary/Bible college qualification or self-appointments<br />
or being the son of a Pastor qualifies them. Only a few of them have a<br />
genuine calling from God</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Were NOT full-time workers</td> <td>Most of them were NOT full-time workers</td> <td>Most of them are full-time workers</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Received tithes from the rest of Israel</td> <td>Never received tithes from early Christians but sometimes<br />
accepted free will gifts/offerings</td> <td>Most of them receive tithes from modern-day Christians in<br />
the form of money</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Received tithes from the rest of the tribes to offset their loss of land inheritance</td> <td>Received freewill offerings/gifts for their labor in the Lord</td> <td>Have an entitlement mentality and force believers to give, sometimes with threats</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>In turn tithed to Priests and the Priests did not tithe to<br />
anyone!</td> <td>Never tithed to any central authority or any<br />
denominational head quarters</td> <td>Usually tithe to denominational headquarters or tithe to<br />
their Pastoral friends</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Always functioned as a team</td> <td>Always mentioned in plural and the Apostles came <br />
first</td> <td>Mostly single pastor controlled systems and per-eminence<br />
to his family</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Accountable to Aaronic Priests and were not supposed to go<br />
inside the Holy of Holies</td> <td>Accountable to Apostles and inter-dependent of other<br />
ministerial offices</td> <td>CEOs of a religious enterprise, sometimes accountable to<br />
their denomination</td> </tr>
<tr> <td>Only Aaronic priests had special privilege in the tabernacle and the<br />
Levites did not control all the resources in the religious enterprise</td> <td>Apostles had greater authority and followed by Prophets. (1 Cor 12:28).No single Pastor and his family controlled all resources of a religious enterprise</td><td> Usually a single Pastor controls all the resources of the religious enterprise and other associate Pastors and Church workers are employed by the Pastor</td><td></td><td></td></tr>
<tr><td>Only received money when the Israelites decided to redeem<br />
the tithe by adding 20% of the monetary value</td> <td>Most of them were in secular jobs and sometimes received<br />
voluntary monetary gifts</td> <td>Compulsorily collect tithes from the gross money earned from believers</td></tr>
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